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Path: ...!weretis.net!feeder9.news.weretis.net!news.quux.org!eternal-september.org!feeder2.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> Newsgroups: rec.arts.drwho Subject: Re: Degrees of Seperation!! Date: Sun, 10 Nov 2024 13:52:42 +0000 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 101 Message-ID: <vgqdra$d3sg$1@dont-email.me> References: <vgngf7$3odkc$1@dont-email.me> <vgoe95$3u22u$2@dont-email.me> <vgq129$b22f$2@dont-email.me> <vgq3ts$bkuv$1@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Sun, 10 Nov 2024 14:52:42 +0100 (CET) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="70887c71f1f286c6bcb3f8f5611fe1a5"; logging-data="429968"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1/dzVgKC6Dh6MUwwjaTuKU0YYaxS23Q2Ow=" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:flH69vYf1b2Gmg/j+qaZMXOlmig= Content-Language: en-GB In-Reply-To: <vgq3ts$bkuv$1@dont-email.me> Bytes: 6106 On 10/11/2024 11:03, The Last Doctor wrote: > Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote: >> The True Doctor wrote on 10/11/24 6:47 am: >> <Snip> >> >>> My local MP knows Keir Starmer and Keir Starmer congratulated Donald >>> Trump after he was elected US president for the second time. >>> >>> Keir Starmer showed himself to be a despotic dictator from the day he >>> was elected by sacking 6 MPs who opposed him taking pensioners winter >>> fuel payments away so that they could die for pneumonia meaning he >>> wouldn't have to pay them their pensions for much longer. >>> >>> Another despotic dictator was Adolf Hitler and through Keir Starmer >>> Donald Trump is linked to Adolf Hitler. >>> >>> Maybe Kamala Harris should have thought of that before making false >>> accusations against Donald Trump. >>> >>> By accepting Labour campaigner interference in the US presidential >>> election Kamala Harris also supported the election of Adolf Hitler as >>> Germany's Chancellor and his elevation to President. >>> >>> Prove me wrong! >>> >> Gee Whiz!! How does THIS garbage follow on from my post .... which I've >> deleted from this reply to try to reduce the cross-infection!! > > Wow, even by Aggie’s standards that’s an insane rant, and full of lies and > errors. There might have been some minor errors but there were no lies. Are you trying to tell me that calling Adolf Hitler a despotic dictator is a lie? > > I’m no fan of Kier Starmer but the seven (not 6) MPs who were suspended > (not sacked) from the Labour Party for 6 months were penalised for ignoring > the whip on not removing the 2 child cap on child benefit (not the winter > fuel allowance). That’s a common thing for British parliamentary parties to > do, it’s a yellow card for not toeing the party line. If the 7 had > abstained in the voting (like 42 other Labour members) rather than opposing > the government, they would not have been subject to the discipline. > > It’s a rather odd sort of punishment - all it means is that the MPs have to > be treated as independent members and aren’t officially part of the > Governing party for the duration. > > Boris Johnson suspended 21 MPs for voting against the Government on an EU > motion in 2019. The Tory government since the 2019 general election > withdrew the whip permanently from 18 members in 2020-2023, with the result > that independent ex-Tories outnumbered the Lib Dems as the fourth largest > “bloc” in Parliament in 2023-2024. > > So accusing Starmer of being a despotic dictator is a lunatic stretch to > begin with. As for the rest -Christ on a crutch. There are no words. > Stop with the nonsensical word salad and obfuscation. Did he or did he not take away the winter fuel payments from old age pensioners? Regardless of whether it was 6 or 7 MPs that he sacked and what it was for, or who else carried out similar actions the past, Starmer proved himself to be a tyrant and a despot. By this action he used threats, blackmail, fear and intimidation in order to control the votes of elected members of parliament. These are the actions of a dictator. Starmer took away pensioners' winter fuel payments knowing that without them they would be more likely to die of the cold and therefore he would not have to keep paying their pensions. Then after that he decided to wreak more vengeance on the people that voted for him and those who did not by putting up taxes to the tune of £40 billion, in the biggest cash grab in history, despite being warned by experts that this would destroy the economy, cause businesses to go bust or leave the country, and force people to lose their jobs. Starmer just as George Orwell predicted in "1984" also tried to redefine the term "working people" so that it could only have one precise meaning that could not be used to argue against his English Socialist party's, (Ingsoc in newspeak, Scottish Labour being Scotsoc) ideology. A working person is no longer someone who works for a living but someone who receives a monthly pay check but has no savings over a tenner in the bank to pay for an emergency, does not have any property, and does not own any shares. This basically means that almost no one in the country who is not homeless and destitute is a working person, even if they have a job. Keir Starmer is a socialist dictator just like Adolf Hitler, Benito Mussolini, and Joseph Stalin. And don't deny that any of these were socialists. George Orwell wrote Animal Farm and 1984 to warn people of the dangers of socialism, basing Ingsoc on the Nazis or National Socialist German Worker's Party, and Keir Starmer has proven his warning to be true. -- The True Doctor https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCngrZwoS0n21IRcXpKO79Lw "To be woke is to be uninformed which is exactly the opposite of what it stands for." -William Shatner