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Subject: Re: Degrees of Seperation!!
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On 10/11/2024 15:34, solar imbecile wrote:
> 
> The True Doctor wrote:
> 
>> On 10/11/2024 11:03, The Last Doctor wrote:
>>> Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
>>>> The True Doctor wrote on 10/11/24 6:47 am:
>>>> <Snip>
>>>>
>>>>> My local MP knows Keir Starmer and Keir Starmer congratulated Donald
>>>>> Trump after he was elected US president for the second time.
>>>>>
>>>>> Keir Starmer showed himself to be a despotic dictator from the day he
>>>>> was elected by sacking 6 MPs who opposed him taking pensioners winter
>>>>> fuel payments away so that they could die for pneumonia meaning he
>>>>> wouldn't have to pay them their pensions for much longer.
>>>>>
>>>>> Another despotic dictator was Adolf Hitler and through Keir Starmer
>>>>> Donald Trump is linked to Adolf Hitler.
>>>>>
>>>>> Maybe Kamala Harris should have thought of that before making false
>>>>> accusations against Donald Trump.
>>>>>
>>>>> By accepting Labour campaigner interference in the US presidential
>>>>> election Kamala Harris also supported the election of Adolf Hitler as
>>>>> Germany's Chancellor and his elevation to President.
>>>>>
>>>>> Prove me wrong!
>>>>>
>>>> Gee Whiz!! How does THIS garbage follow on from my post .... which I've
>>>> deleted from this reply to try to reduce the cross-infection!!
>>>
>>> Wow, even by Aggie’s standards that’s an insane rant, and full of lies and
>>> errors.
>>
>> There might have been some minor errors but there were no lies. Are you
>> trying to tell me that calling Adolf Hitler a despotic dictator is a lie?
>>
>>>
>>> I’m no fan of Kier Starmer but the seven (not 6) MPs who were suspended
>>> (not sacked) from the Labour Party for 6 months were penalised for ignoring
>>> the whip on not removing the 2 child cap on child benefit (not the winter
>>> fuel allowance). That’s a common thing for British parliamentary parties to
>>> do, it’s a yellow card for not toeing the party line. If the 7 had
>>> abstained in the voting (like 42 other Labour members) rather than opposing
>>> the government, they would not have been subject to the discipline.
>>>
>>> It’s a rather odd sort of punishment - all it means is that the MPs have to
>>> be treated as independent members and aren’t officially part of the
>>> Governing party for the duration.
>>>
>>> Boris Johnson suspended 21 MPs for voting against the Government on an EU
>>> motion in 2019. The Tory government since the 2019 general election
>>> withdrew the whip permanently from 18 members in 2020-2023, with the result
>>> that independent ex-Tories outnumbered the Lib Dems as the fourth largest
>>> “bloc” in Parliament in 2023-2024.
>>>
>>> So accusing Starmer of being a despotic dictator is a lunatic stretch to
>>> begin with. As for the rest -Christ on a crutch. There are no words.
>>>
>>
>> Stop with the nonsensical word salad and obfuscation.
>>
>> Did he or did he not take away the winter fuel payments from old age
>> pensioners?
>>
>> Regardless of whether it was 6 or 7 MPs that he sacked and what it was
>> for, or who else carried out similar actions the past, Starmer proved
>> himself to be a tyrant and a despot. By this action he used threats,
>> blackmail, fear and intimidation in order to control the votes of
>> elected members of parliament. These are the actions of a dictator.
>>
>> Starmer took away pensioners' winter fuel payments knowing that without
>> them they would be more likely to die of the cold and therefore he would
>> not have to keep paying their pensions. Then after that he decided to
>> wreak more vengeance on the people that voted for him and those who did
>> not by putting up taxes to the tune of £40 billion, in the biggest cash
>> grab in history, despite being warned by experts that this would destroy
>> the economy, cause businesses to go bust or leave the country, and force
>> people to lose their jobs.
>>
>> Starmer just as George Orwell predicted in "1984" also tried to redefine
>> the term "working people" so that it could only have one precise meaning
>> that could not be used to argue against his English Socialist party's,
>> (Ingsoc in newspeak, Scottish Labour being Scotsoc) ideology.
>>
>> A working person is no longer someone who works for a living but someone
>> who receives a monthly pay check but has no savings over a tenner in the
>> bank to pay for an emergency, does not have any property, and does not
>> own any shares. This basically means that almost no one in the country
>> who is not homeless and destitute is a working person, even if they have
>> a job.
>>
>> Keir Starmer is a socialist dictator just like Adolf Hitler, Benito
>> Mussolini, and Joseph Stalin. And don't deny that any of these were
>> socialists. George Orwell wrote Animal Farm and 1984 to warn people of
>> the dangers of socialism, basing Ingsoc on the Nazis or National
>> Socialist German Worker's Party, and Keir Starmer has proven his warning
>> to be true.
>>
> 
> Oh, look. Aggy’s shifted his goalposts from “Starmer sacked six
> MPs in order to cut winter fuel payments,” to “Starmer cut winter
> fuel payments in order to meet Orwell’s definition of a socialist.”
> 
> And, of course he was wrong both times. What a surprise!
> 

And once again the Solar Imbecile lies, lies, and lies, and dissembles, 
dissembles, and dissembles.

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