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From: The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM>
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Subject: Re: USA Election
Date: Sun, 10 Nov 2024 20:11:31 +0000
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On 10/11/2024 19:56, The Doctor wrote:
> In article <vgr21m$h92v$2@dont-email.me>,
> The True Doctor  <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
>> On 10/11/2024 10:09, Daniel70 wrote:
>>> The True Doctor wrote on 10/11/24 6:34 am:
>>>> On 09/11/2024 12:01, Blueshirt wrote:
>>>>> The True Doctor wrote:
>>>>>> On 08/11/2024 20:30, Blueshirt wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>> So what I said wasn't fake news then, was it? People, like you and
>>>>>>> Dave, were against a female Doctor from the beginning.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yes it was. Totally fake news.
>>>>>
>>>>> How can it be fake when both of you were posting messages here since
>>>>> the day Jodie was cast as the 13th Doctor complaining about it? In
>>>>> your case, even saying Chris Chibnall should be sacked!
>>>>
>>>> Most Doctor Who fans thought the same way. Saying otherwise is fake news.
>>>
>>> Sorry! How did "Most Doctor Who fans" know how well the Chibnall/Jodie
>>> combination was going to work BEFORE ANY SCRIPTS HAD BEEN SUBMITTED let
>>> alone anything having been filmed??
>>>
>>
>> The mere announcement that the Doctor had been turned into a woman for a
>> woke gimmick was enough to figure out it was going to fail.
>>
> 
>  From Day 1 !
> 
>>>>> Or, maybe you believe in alternative facts? In which case, you
>>>>> lose the argument for being an idiot.
>>>>
>>>> There are no alternative facts. Almost everyone thought gender
>>>> swapping the Doctor was a stupid gimmick that would fail.
>>>
>>> "no alternative facts" cause nothing had been written let alone filmed!!
>>>
>>
>> The mere announcement that the Doctor, A MALE CHARACTER, had been turned
>> into a woman for a woke gimmick was enough to figure out it was going to
>> fail.
>>
> 
>  From Day 1 !
> 
>>>>> (As an aside, reading your old rants I wonder why you are even
>>>>> here as you come across more like someone who is an anti-Doctor
>>>>> Who... even Steven Moffat didn't escape your wrath.)
>>>>
>>>> I supported Moffat until he went woke. There is no place for wokery in
>>>> Doctor Who or anywhere. It's fascist Marxist totalitarian thought
>>>> control. Doctor Who ended in 2017 when it became everything it stood
>>>> against.
>>>
>>> Hang on .... you supported "Moffat until he went woke" ..... so this *IS
>>> BEFORE* Chibnall/Jodie had come into existance!!
>>>
>>
>> No one is claiming that Doctor Who only went woke when Chibnall took
>> over. Doctor Who went woke the moment Moffat turned the Master into
>> Missy and insulted the memory of the Brigadier and Nicolas Courtney who
>> played him.
> 
> Hear! Hear!!
> 
>>
>>>> The Timeless Child monster has everything to do with it. Whittaker was
>>>> tolerated until she was sacked. The Timeless Child monster
>>>> cannot be tolerated.
>>>
>>> If "Whittaker was tolerated until she was sacked" how come, you, AGGY,
>>> hated her 'Doctor Who' character since BEFORE it was ON SCREEN??
>>>
>>
>> Tolerating her does not imply that I cannot hate her terrible acting and
>> the terrible writing.
>>
>>> What's the saying .... "Doctor Who ceased in 2017!!".
>>>
>>>>> refer to the 13th Doctor!) Some people in fandom wanted the 13th
>>>>> Doctor to fail from the very beginning, this is not propaganda or
>>>>> a lie.
>>>>
>>>> They knew she would fail from the very start. Nothing to do with
>>>> wanting. It was a stupid gimmick.
>>>
>>> So why did "THEY" do it??
>>>
>>
>> Can you read? I just told you. It was a stupid woke gimmick.
>>
>> Chibnall and other woke retards like RTD don't care about the audience
>> or good writing. They only thing they care about is their disgusting,
>> degenerate woke agenda and using what they produce to sexually groom
>> children.
>>
>>>>> Your rants here were quite predictable though and you are
>>>>> [reasonably] consistent, I will give you that.
>>>>
>>>> My rants were reasonable common sense which the majority agreed or
>>>> would agree with.
>>>
>>> Except they don't ..... at least not HERE!!
>>>
>>
>> Wrong.
>>
>>>>>>> As I said, some people were against Jodie Whittaker's casting from
>>>>>>> day one just because she was a woman.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The Doctor is a MALE character. A male character cannot be
>>>>>> played by a woman.
>>>>>
>>>>> In your opinion.
>>>>
>>>> This is an absolute literary FACT not an opinion.
>>>
>>> In how many instances has a Literary character changed sex before?? Did
>>> Ian Fleming's James Bond suddenly become Jane Bond between books??
>>>
>>
>> What the hell is that word salad supposed to mean Kamala?
>>
>> The Doctor is a MALE character. A male character cannot be played by a
>> woman. This is an absolute literary FACT not an opinion.
>>
>>>> The Doctor is written acts, thinks, speaks, and behaves in the
>>>> manner of a man. That makes him a male character.
>>>
>>> One could hardly describe 'The Doctor' as a "Man of Action'. Sure, The
>>> Doctor MAKES THINGS HAPPEN .... but not from MALE STRENGTH!!
>>>
>>
>> Wrong again. All you need to do is look at Jon Pertwee for proof by
>> contradiction.
>>
>> The Doctor is written acts, thinks, speaks, and behaves in the manner of
>> a man. That makes him a male character.
>>
>>>>>>> entitled to their views but trying to pretend it was because Jodie
>>>>>>> didn't play the character well or it was because of the eventuality
>>>>>>> that became the Timeless Child is historical revisionism, aka
>>>>>>> BULLSHIT.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Your claims are historical revisionism, They facts show that
>>>>>> over 10 million viewers gave Whittaker a chance.
>>>>>
>>>>> Judging by your posts here, and replies to others, you didn't give
>>>>> her much of a chance. Any claims otherwise by you are just confounded
>>>>> lies.
>>>>
>>>> She was given a chance
>>>
>>> By WHOM?? YOU had canned her before even a scene was shot!!
>>>
>>
>> By over 10 million viewers.
>>
>>>> and she failed to prove herself. Giving someone a chance doesn't mean
>>>> you have to agree with them.
>>>
>>> Correct!! So WE don't HAVE to agree with YOU!!
>>>
>>>> It means they have to prove you wrong. They didn't.
>>>
>>> But, according to many, Jodie had failed before WE had even seen a
>>> single scene!!
>>
>> She failed from the moment she was cast because the Doctor is a MALE
>> character and therefore cannot be portrayed by a woman. Whittaker was
>> given a chance to disprove that SCIENTIFIC AND LITERARY FACT and she
>> couldn't.
> 
> How low are the ratings worldwide?
> 

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