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Path: news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> Newsgroups: rec.arts.drwho Subject: Re: USA Election Date: Sun, 10 Nov 2024 20:11:31 +0000 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 188 Message-ID: <vgr41j$h92v$7@dont-email.me> References: <vgccus$2et7$2@gallifrey.nk.ca> <vgodgp$3u22u$1@dont-email.me> <vgq0ol$b22f$1@dont-email.me> <vgr21m$h92v$2@dont-email.me> <vgr34h$1lpe$7@gallifrey.nk.ca> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Sun, 10 Nov 2024 21:11:32 +0100 (CET) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="70887c71f1f286c6bcb3f8f5611fe1a5"; logging-data="566367"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1/0hSfmwgdF0WKnnAAf1smruXRqx1QnpfI=" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:GsODweNyqTBA/rWkHv/OAABzpmI= In-Reply-To: <vgr34h$1lpe$7@gallifrey.nk.ca> Content-Language: en-GB On 10/11/2024 19:56, The Doctor wrote: > In article <vgr21m$h92v$2@dont-email.me>, > The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote: >> On 10/11/2024 10:09, Daniel70 wrote: >>> The True Doctor wrote on 10/11/24 6:34 am: >>>> On 09/11/2024 12:01, Blueshirt wrote: >>>>> The True Doctor wrote: >>>>>> On 08/11/2024 20:30, Blueshirt wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>> So what I said wasn't fake news then, was it? People, like you and >>>>>>> Dave, were against a female Doctor from the beginning. >>>>>> >>>>>> Yes it was. Totally fake news. >>>>> >>>>> How can it be fake when both of you were posting messages here since >>>>> the day Jodie was cast as the 13th Doctor complaining about it? In >>>>> your case, even saying Chris Chibnall should be sacked! >>>> >>>> Most Doctor Who fans thought the same way. Saying otherwise is fake news. >>> >>> Sorry! How did "Most Doctor Who fans" know how well the Chibnall/Jodie >>> combination was going to work BEFORE ANY SCRIPTS HAD BEEN SUBMITTED let >>> alone anything having been filmed?? >>> >> >> The mere announcement that the Doctor had been turned into a woman for a >> woke gimmick was enough to figure out it was going to fail. >> > > From Day 1 ! > >>>>> Or, maybe you believe in alternative facts? In which case, you >>>>> lose the argument for being an idiot. >>>> >>>> There are no alternative facts. Almost everyone thought gender >>>> swapping the Doctor was a stupid gimmick that would fail. >>> >>> "no alternative facts" cause nothing had been written let alone filmed!! >>> >> >> The mere announcement that the Doctor, A MALE CHARACTER, had been turned >> into a woman for a woke gimmick was enough to figure out it was going to >> fail. >> > > From Day 1 ! > >>>>> (As an aside, reading your old rants I wonder why you are even >>>>> here as you come across more like someone who is an anti-Doctor >>>>> Who... even Steven Moffat didn't escape your wrath.) >>>> >>>> I supported Moffat until he went woke. There is no place for wokery in >>>> Doctor Who or anywhere. It's fascist Marxist totalitarian thought >>>> control. Doctor Who ended in 2017 when it became everything it stood >>>> against. >>> >>> Hang on .... you supported "Moffat until he went woke" ..... so this *IS >>> BEFORE* Chibnall/Jodie had come into existance!! >>> >> >> No one is claiming that Doctor Who only went woke when Chibnall took >> over. Doctor Who went woke the moment Moffat turned the Master into >> Missy and insulted the memory of the Brigadier and Nicolas Courtney who >> played him. > > Hear! Hear!! > >> >>>> The Timeless Child monster has everything to do with it. Whittaker was >>>> tolerated until she was sacked. The Timeless Child monster >>>> cannot be tolerated. >>> >>> If "Whittaker was tolerated until she was sacked" how come, you, AGGY, >>> hated her 'Doctor Who' character since BEFORE it was ON SCREEN?? >>> >> >> Tolerating her does not imply that I cannot hate her terrible acting and >> the terrible writing. >> >>> What's the saying .... "Doctor Who ceased in 2017!!". >>> >>>>> refer to the 13th Doctor!) Some people in fandom wanted the 13th >>>>> Doctor to fail from the very beginning, this is not propaganda or >>>>> a lie. >>>> >>>> They knew she would fail from the very start. Nothing to do with >>>> wanting. It was a stupid gimmick. >>> >>> So why did "THEY" do it?? >>> >> >> Can you read? I just told you. It was a stupid woke gimmick. >> >> Chibnall and other woke retards like RTD don't care about the audience >> or good writing. They only thing they care about is their disgusting, >> degenerate woke agenda and using what they produce to sexually groom >> children. >> >>>>> Your rants here were quite predictable though and you are >>>>> [reasonably] consistent, I will give you that. >>>> >>>> My rants were reasonable common sense which the majority agreed or >>>> would agree with. >>> >>> Except they don't ..... at least not HERE!! >>> >> >> Wrong. >> >>>>>>> As I said, some people were against Jodie Whittaker's casting from >>>>>>> day one just because she was a woman. >>>>>> >>>>>> The Doctor is a MALE character. A male character cannot be >>>>>> played by a woman. >>>>> >>>>> In your opinion. >>>> >>>> This is an absolute literary FACT not an opinion. >>> >>> In how many instances has a Literary character changed sex before?? Did >>> Ian Fleming's James Bond suddenly become Jane Bond between books?? >>> >> >> What the hell is that word salad supposed to mean Kamala? >> >> The Doctor is a MALE character. A male character cannot be played by a >> woman. This is an absolute literary FACT not an opinion. >> >>>> The Doctor is written acts, thinks, speaks, and behaves in the >>>> manner of a man. That makes him a male character. >>> >>> One could hardly describe 'The Doctor' as a "Man of Action'. Sure, The >>> Doctor MAKES THINGS HAPPEN .... but not from MALE STRENGTH!! >>> >> >> Wrong again. All you need to do is look at Jon Pertwee for proof by >> contradiction. >> >> The Doctor is written acts, thinks, speaks, and behaves in the manner of >> a man. That makes him a male character. >> >>>>>>> entitled to their views but trying to pretend it was because Jodie >>>>>>> didn't play the character well or it was because of the eventuality >>>>>>> that became the Timeless Child is historical revisionism, aka >>>>>>> BULLSHIT. >>>>>> >>>>>> Your claims are historical revisionism, They facts show that >>>>>> over 10 million viewers gave Whittaker a chance. >>>>> >>>>> Judging by your posts here, and replies to others, you didn't give >>>>> her much of a chance. Any claims otherwise by you are just confounded >>>>> lies. >>>> >>>> She was given a chance >>> >>> By WHOM?? YOU had canned her before even a scene was shot!! >>> >> >> By over 10 million viewers. >> >>>> and she failed to prove herself. Giving someone a chance doesn't mean >>>> you have to agree with them. >>> >>> Correct!! So WE don't HAVE to agree with YOU!! >>> >>>> It means they have to prove you wrong. They didn't. >>> >>> But, according to many, Jodie had failed before WE had even seen a >>> single scene!! >> >> She failed from the moment she was cast because the Doctor is a MALE >> character and therefore cannot be portrayed by a woman. Whittaker was >> given a chance to disprove that SCIENTIFIC AND LITERARY FACT and she >> couldn't. > > How low are the ratings worldwide? > ========== REMAINDER OF ARTICLE TRUNCATED ==========