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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder2.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> Newsgroups: comp.theory Subject: Re: The philosophy of logic reformulates existing ideas on a new basis --- infallibly correct Date: Sun, 10 Nov 2024 15:54:01 -0600 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 41 Message-ID: <vgra1q$ikr6$2@dont-email.me> References: <vfli1h$fj8s$1@dont-email.me> <vgoand$2464$1@news.muc.de> <vgobg7$3tnrn$2@dont-email.me> <vgodcf$kll$1@news.muc.de> <vgoed9$3ucjr$1@dont-email.me> <vgoi51$kll$2@news.muc.de> <vgojp1$3v611$1@dont-email.me> <vgol50$kll$3@news.muc.de> <vgom8r$3vue8$1@dont-email.me> <vgonlv$kll$4@news.muc.de> <vgoqv6$qht$2@dont-email.me> <vgq0dv$1trm$1@news.muc.de> <vgqifj$e0q0$2@dont-email.me> <vgqnfl$2ca0$1@news.muc.de> <vgqt2v$gdj5$2@dont-email.me> <vgr04c$dfn$1@news.muc.de> <vgr3vt$hf6i$2@dont-email.me> <vgr5fv$dfn$2@news.muc.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Sun, 10 Nov 2024 22:54:02 +0100 (CET) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="5e3d204d1939e67d6d9b2cbe8090f3d7"; logging-data="611174"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1/8b/SeJcchdmO4V7b/tOjS" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:deulmTahc8Ui6MuwX5AOLmhu4u0= In-Reply-To: <vgr5fv$dfn$2@news.muc.de> X-Antivirus: Norton (VPS 241110-4, 11/10/2024), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Content-Language: en-US Bytes: 2981 On 11/10/2024 2:36 PM, Alan Mackenzie wrote: > olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> wrote: >> On 11/10/2024 1:04 PM, Alan Mackenzie wrote: > > [ .... ] > >>> I have addressed your point perfectly well. Gödel's theorem is correct, >>> therefore you are wrong. What part of that don't you understand? > >> YOU FAIL TO SHOW THE DETAILS OF HOW THIS DOES >> NOT GET RID OF INCOMPLETENESS. > > The details are unimportant. Gödel's theorem is correct. In other words you simply don't understand these things well enough to understand that when we change their basis the conclusion changes. You are a learned-by-rote guy that accepts what you memorized as infallible gospel. > Your ideas > contradict that theorem. When we start with a different foundation then incompleteness ceases to exist just like the different foundation of ZFC eliminates Russell's Paradox. Have you ever heard of ZFC or Russell's Paradox or are these things nonsense to you as well? > Therefore your ideas are incorrect. Again, the > precise details are unimportant, So you have no clue how ZFC eliminated Russell's Paradox. The details are unimportant and you never heard of ZFC or Russell's Paradox anyway. -- Copyright 2024 Olcott "Talent hits a target no one else can hit; Genius hits a target no one else can see." Arthur Schopenhauer