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From: Citizen Winston Smith <sss@example.de>
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Subject: Re: Dinner in the year of our lord 20241031.
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On 11/10/2024 2:54 PM, dsi1 wrote:
> On Sun, 10 Nov 2024 21:05:35 +0000, Citizen Winston Smith wrote:
> 
>> On 11/10/2024 1:25 PM, Carol wrote:
>>> dsi1 wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Sun, 10 Nov 2024 0:34:00 +0000, Dave Smith wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 2024-11-09 7:22 p.m., dsi1 wrote:
>>>>>> On Sat, 9 Nov 2024 18:03:15 +0000, Carol wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> dsi1 wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Fri, 8 Nov 2024 20:15:06 +0000, Carol wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> dsi1 wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 8 Nov 2024 0:06:55 +0000, jmcquown wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On 11/6/2024 10:19 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2024-11-06 9:36 p.m., dsi1 wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Your simplistic ways are your downfall. Why the heck would I
>>>>>>>>>>>>> hate a pan?  That's just so silly. I'm an idea person, I'm
>>>>>>>>>>>>> always on the lookout for new ideas. I love new ideas.
>>>> Using a >>>>>>>>> cast iron pan to cook a burger is just plain dumb.
>>>> I don't like >>>>>>>>> that idea at all.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Having had many burgers cooked in a cast iron pan I
>>>>>>>>>>>> can tell you is not dumb. They are excellent.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Ditto, Dave.  I nearly always use a cast iron skillet to cook
>>>>>>>>>>> burgers.  Excellent heat conduction, great browning, able to
>>>>>>>>>>> cook them to just your preferred doneness.  A grill works for
>>>>>>>>>>> that, too.  I'm not sure what "new ideas" dsi1 is looking
>>>> for.  >>>>>> > It's just hamburgers.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Jill
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> You're wrong about cast iron being an excellent conductor of
>>>> heat.  >>>>>> Information about the thermal conduction of metals is
>>>> readily >>>>>> available but my guess is that you're not into
>>>> scientific tables >>>>>> or science in general. Why do I even bother
>>>> with yoose guys?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> David, most of the talk is about heat retention and how
>>>>>>>>> useful it is.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Americans don't cook with heat retention. Hawaiians, on the
>>>>>>>> other hand, certainly do.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hMK9OKt7mBM
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> David, mainlanders, especially from the south DEFINATELY cook
>>>>>>> with heat retention.  They may not think of it, but they know
>>>>>>> it, everytime they select a pan.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Name one dish.
>>>>>
>>>>> Steaks, pork chops, pancakes, pineapple upside down cake.....
>>>>> ..
>>>>
>>>> I cook those things too. Most people do. You can't cook these things
>>>> without special heat retaining pans? Yoose people are delusional. I am
>>>> the king of pineapple upside down cake, and pancakes too.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Point is they are BETTER.  How about pizza still piping hot at the
>>> table?  Excellent device for it.  Don't forget the trivet!  (or flip
>>> your other cast iron pan over and use as trivet).
>>
>> There is a reason that cast iron is not a pizza restaurant standard
>> dear.
> 
> The Southern people have some wacky ideas about pizza. The pizza is
> taken out of a blazing hot oven and laid out on aluminum pans and served
> immediately. There is no cooking after it comes out of the oven. The pan
> is not hot. The pizza is hot and it's spewing all sorts of heat into the
> room. You only have a few minutes to enjoy the pie. 

It is a bafflement, of course a Chicago or Detroit deep dish pie stays 
in a heated tray pan.

> I suppose some
> places could serve it on a heated cast iron pan but that's just the
> South for you. I used to be into pizza - in fact, "pizza" is my middle
> name. The idea of cooking a pizza at the table is not something that I
> practice or condone.

Amen.

> I have had steaks served on a heated cast iron platter. It's not really
> about cooking with retained heat. It's all about show biz and putting on
> a show for the room. Mostly, it's just a gimmick.
> 
> https://photos.app.goo.gl/qFS2Wjz2kWVFDC4m7

Yowzers !

> https://photos.app.goo.gl/Xyyc16wbAYdNfMvJ6

All that sizzle is great...until you go to lick the pan...

:-)