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From: Frank Krygowski <frkrygow@sbcglobal.net>
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.tech
Subject: Re: 1972 Legnano in the news
Date: Sun, 10 Nov 2024 20:53:09 -0500
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On 11/10/2024 11:45 AM, Catrike Ryder wrote:
> On Sun, 10 Nov 2024 10:05:15 -0600, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:
> 
>> On 11/10/2024 3:52 AM, John B. wrote:
>>> On Sun, 10 Nov 2024 04:28:34 -0500, Catrike Ryder
>>> <Soloman@old.bikers.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Sat, 9 Nov 2024 21:57:56 -0500, Frank Krygowski
>>>> <frkrygow@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 11/9/2024 4:13 PM, Mark J cleary wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I always wear a helmet and if you don't want to wear one it is free
>>>>>> county, don't wear one. I am not about to argue just that I wear a helmet.
>>>>>
>>>>> Since this is a discussion group, when you make a statement like
>>>>> "Generally it is much safer to wear a helmet" you can expect it to be
>>>>> discussed. There's ample data available calling your statement into
>>>>> question. Wolfgang knows this.
>>>>
>>>> I have no problems with someone believing and saying "generally it is
>>>> much safer to wear a helmet. I think it's ridiculous to argue
>>>> otherwise. It's total nonsense to claim that it's generally safer to
>>>> not wear a helmet; therefore.....
>>>>
>>>> I believe it'd also be true of riding a motorcycle, riding in a motor
>>>> vehicle, or even riding a horse. It seems to me that when doing
>>>> something where a head injury is possible, a helmet would lessen the
>>>> risk of it.
>>>>
>>>> The issue, of course, is not whether or not it's safer to wear a
>>>> helmet, but whether or not an individual is willing to accept the
>>>> discomfort and hassle of wearing a helmet.
>>>>
>>>> It seems to me that it should be a subjective decision and it makes no
>>>> sense to argue anything other than about the legal right to make that
>>>> decision.
>>>>
>>>> Some people favor a nanny government.  I do not.
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Well...
>>> https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/8909479/
>>> An average of 247 traumatic brain injury deaths and 140,000 head
>>> injuries among children and adolescents younger than 20 years were
>>> related to bicycle crashes each year in the United States. As many as
>>> 184 deaths and 116,000 head injuries might have been prevented
>>> annually if these riders had worn helmets.
>>>
>>> https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S2214140518302731
>>> Head injury was the secondary cause of death for 269 cyclists, 1324
>>> pedestrians and 1046 drivers, accounting for 46%, 42% and 25% of road
>>> travel deaths at all ages in each mode respectively. Head injury was
>>> the commonest cause of death in cyclists, but most pedestrian and
>>> driver deaths were from multiple injuries.
>>
>>
>> What proportion of your own lifetime bicycle riding was
>> under a brain bucket?
> 
> As for me, I've never worn a helmet, I never will, but I have no
> problems with other people wearing one. I also have no problems with
> laws mandating helmets for children.

You have no problem with removing a parent's right to decide whether his 
kid should wear a helmet.

Yet you complain about people telling other people what to do. Hypocrite.


-- 
- Frank Krygowski