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From: Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid>
Newsgroups: sci.electronics.design
Subject: Re: Grounded grid VHF front-end
Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2024 06:38:13 GMT
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On a sunny day (Sun, 10 Nov 2024 17:39:36 +0000) it happened Cursitor Doom
<cd@notformail.com> wrote in <qpr1jj9glcibtukfkhsgt3m0ujq0kkho0l@4ax.com>:

>On Sun, 10 Nov 2024 14:33:41 GMT, Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid>
>wrote:
>
>>On a sunny day (Sun, 10 Nov 2024 13:38:31 +0000) it happened Cursitor Doom
>><cd@notformail.com> wrote in <eld1jjl15hq8ohgm3kifpodkktupt1lr3g@4ax.com>:
>>
>>>On Sun, 10 Nov 2024 11:19:14 GMT, Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid>
>>>wrote:
>>...
>>>>We had nice electronic magazines too, 'Radio Electronica', 'Electuur' (Elector?) 
>>>>and whatever I could get hands on in English.
>>>
>>>Elektor was one of the better hobby ones. I was also subscribed to
>>>Wireless World which was a bit more heavy-duty.
>>
>>Yes I used to read that on occasion (if I did see it at the newsstand at the staion for example)
>>plus some German electronic related magazines, 
>>
>>
>>>No idea if any of
>>>these are still being published and can't be bothered to find out.
>>>There was also Everyday Electronics and Practical Electronics, too.
>>>I'm guessing they've all gone now since the kids just want to code it
>>>seems.
>>
>>Na, there is still a lot around on hardware design / building stuff, several websites.
>>Just google works great too.
>>
>>Electronics is used in a very wide field...
>>Just got a new alu housing with fan for my raspi 4 8 GB (this one I use to post this)
>>It has an IR camera connected too (mlx90640_FLIR), 
>>now to find a way to get the i2c and power lines to that IR camera module
>>out of that housing...
>>
>>What bothers me today (thought maybe use an extra Raspberry Pi) is that prices
>>are going up to insane lavels for a Raspi5 8 Gb + supply + housing + sdcard to above 120 USD:
>> https://www.sossolutions.nl/raspberry-pi-5-8gb-starter-kit-compleet
>>
>>For just a bit more you have a decent mini computer:
>> https://www.aliexpress.com/w/wholesale-mini-pc-x86.html
>>
>>Inflation?
>>Time to end raspi stuff and look for other solutions.
>> 
>
>Arduinos are very cheap and don't have all the overhead the Pi has in
>terms of video capabilities. Plus they're piss-easy to program.
>A Pi 5 plus accessories for 120 bux doesn't sound bad at all, though.
>Or if you're really that much of a skinflint, you could consider PIC
>programming. :-)

I use this Pi 4 8 GB for web browsing, posting stuff here, spectrum analyzer, radio reception , music play, so much more
An arduno is something totally different.
But this 4 8GB is dead slow at times browsing the web.
Added a metal case with fan now to prevent it from throtling on over-temperature
so now its hovers around
temp=40.9'C
temp=41.3'C
temp=40.4'
...
Just cut and paste 

Has a 4 TB Toshiba harddisc connected to it, some RTL-SDR stick, A huawei 4G stick so I have internet on it,
a HDMI monitor, and for all the other USB stuff a Sitecom USB hub, a Logitech wireless keyboard... and that IR FLIR camera on GPIO.

raspberrypi: ~ # df
Filesystem      1K-blocks       Used Available Use% Mounted on
/dev/root        30421240   27643352   1432704  96% /
devtmpfs          3879380          0   3879380   0% /dev
tmpfs             4044244          0   4044244   0% /dev/shm
tmpfs             1617700       1336   1616364   1% /run
tmpfs                5120          4      5116   1% /run/lock
/dev/mmcblk0p1     258095      50413    207682  20% /boot
tmpfs              808848         24    808824   1% /run/user/1000
/dev/sda2      3844420600 2863079020 785980916  79% /mnt/sda2

raspberrypi: ~ # top
top - 07:27:40 up 1 day, 22:12, 11 users,  load average: 0.64, 0.66, 0.97
Tasks: 221 total,   1 running, 220 sleeping,   0 stopped,   0 zombie
%Cpu(s):  4.8 us,  4.3 sy,  0.0 ni, 90.8 id,  0.1 wa,  0.0 hi,  0.1 si,  0.0 st
MiB Mem :   7898.9 total,   6529.0 free,    727.2 used,    642.7 buff/cache
MiB Swap:    100.0 total,    100.0 free,      0.0 used.   6853.9 avail Mem 
  PID USER      PR  NI    VIRT    RES    SHR S  %CPU  %MEM     TIME+ COMMAND                                                                                                                                                                                                 
 1105 root      19  -1  195056  77668  56360 S  10.2   1.0 195:49.13 Xorg                                                                                                                                                                                                    
12594 root      20   0  980792 351696 161036 S   6.6   4.3   7:45.00 firefox-esr                                                                                                                                                                                             
12782 root      20   0  496732 164380  94644 S   3.9   2.0   2:14.18 Web Content                                                                                                                                                                                             
 1123 root      20   0   48028  12892   8604 S   1.6   0.2   0:01.86 rxvt                                                                                                                                                                                                    
 1219 root      20   0    6644   4208   3832 S   1.6   0.1  37:20.43 xosview                                                                                                                                                                                                 
12732 root      20   0  640868 135868  81320 S   1.3   1.7   1:02.58 WebExtensions                                                                                                                                                                                           
.....


As to PIC programming, how about a simple oscilloscope with FFT option:
 https://panteltje.nl/panteltje/pic/scope_pic/
from
  https://panteltje.nl/panteltje/pic/index.html
Or controlling a drone:
 https://panteltje.nl/panteltje/quadcopter/index.html
From:
 https://panteltje.nl/panteltje/newsflex/download.html

and now show us somthing YOU designed, code YOU wrote, THAT WORKS!
And stop meddling here as if you are a censor, Billy blacklisting game with J Lurking
This is a non-moderated group, bring in some more content than boat anchors and show us!

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