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Path: ...!weretis.net!feeder9.news.weretis.net!news.quux.org!eternal-september.org!feeder2.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Mikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi> Newsgroups: sci.logic Subject: Re: Incompleteness of Cantor's enumeration of the rational numbers (extra-ordinary) Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2024 13:17:52 +0200 Organization: - Lines: 43 Message-ID: <vgsp50$v2dn$1@dont-email.me> References: <vg7cp8$9jka$1@dont-email.me> <0e67005f-120e-4b3b-a4d2-ec4bbc1c5662@att.net> <vga5mb$st52$1@dont-email.me> <vga7qi$talf$1@dont-email.me> <03b90d6c-fff1-411d-9dec-1c5cc7058480@tha.de> <vgb1fj$128tl$1@dont-email.me> <vgb2r6$11df6$3@dont-email.me> <vgcs35$1fq8n$1@dont-email.me> <vgfepg$22hhn$1@dont-email.me> <vgg0ic$25pcn$1@dont-email.me> <vggai3$25spe$8@dont-email.me> <vgi0t7$2ji2i$1@dont-email.me> <vgiet5$2l5ni$1@dont-email.me> <vgl2hj$3794c$1@dont-email.me> <vgleau$bi0i$2@solani.org> <vgnq3i$3qgfe$1@dont-email.me> <vgoka6$3vg2p$1@dont-email.me> <vgq1cm$b5vj$1@dont-email.me> <vgq3gq$bhi3$1@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2024 12:17:52 +0100 (CET) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="88f660726df1b76a05d2b3eb8bbe5a8c"; logging-data="1018295"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX19f8bVgIiHmOBf5yzjXmGZK" User-Agent: Unison/2.2 Cancel-Lock: sha1:zBq8PGSOS9pgDdJuX5Ls01wGcyo= Bytes: 2866 On 2024-11-10 10:56:26 +0000, WM said: > On 10.11.2024 11:20, Mikko wrote: > > On 2024-11-09 21:30:47 +0000, WM said: > > > >> On 09.11.2024 15:03, Mikko wrote: > >>> On 2024-11-08 16:30:23 +0000, WM said: > >> > >>>> > >>>> If Cantors enumeration of the rationals is complete, then all rationals > >>>> are in the sequence 1/1, 1/2, 2/1, 1/3, 2/2, 3/1, 1/4, 2/3, 3/2, > 4/1, 1/5, 2/4, 3/3, 4/2, 5/1, 1/6, 2/5, 3/4, 4/3, 5/2, 6/1, ... and > none is outside. > >>> > >>> All positive rationals quite obviously are in the sequence. Non-positive > >>> rationals are not. > >>> > >>>> Therefore also irrational numbers cannot be there. > >>> > >>> That is equally obvious. > >>> > >>>> Of course this is wrong. > >>> > >>> You may call it wrong but that's the way they are. > >> > >> The measure of all intervals J(n) = [n - √2/10, n + √2/10] is > smaller than 3. > > > > Maybe, maybe not, depending on what is all n. > > It is, as usual, all natural numbers. > > > If all n is all reals then > > the measure of their union is infinite. > > But n is all naturals as you could have found out yourself, by the measure < 3. That is not something one can find out. The symbol n means whatever you say it means, and in this case you didn't say. -- Mikko