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Path: ...!2.eu.feeder.erje.net!feeder.erje.net!feeds.news.ox.ac.uk!news.ox.ac.uk!nntp-feed.chiark.greenend.org.uk!ewrotcd!news.xcski.com!news.eyrie.org!beagle.ediacara.org!.POSTED.beagle.ediacara.org!not-for-mail From: RonO <rokimoto557@gmail.com> Newsgroups: talk.origins Subject: A review of Denisovan DNA in modern humans Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2024 14:08:47 -0600 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 24 Sender: to%beagle.ediacara.org Approved: moderator@beagle.ediacara.org Message-ID: <vgto8g$15ctb$1@dont-email.me> Reply-To: rokimoto557@gmail.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Info: beagle.ediacara.org; posting-host="beagle.ediacara.org:3.132.105.89"; logging-data="56874"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@beagle.ediacara.org" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird To: talk-origins@moderators.isc.org Cancel-Lock: sha1:JEYcX2tRWifjCpdi9vZew3Dqi4o= Return-Path: <news@eternal-september.org> X-Original-To: talk-origins@ediacara.org Delivered-To: talk-origins@ediacara.org id A1D8A229782; Mon, 11 Nov 2024 15:08:54 -0500 (EST) by beagle.ediacara.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 75559229765 for <talk-origins@ediacara.org>; Mon, 11 Nov 2024 15:08:52 -0500 (EST) id 177775DF9C; Mon, 11 Nov 2024 20:08:52 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: talk-origins@moderators.isc.org by mod-relay-1.kamens.us (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E62045DF9B for <talk-origins@moderators.isc.org>; Mon, 11 Nov 2024 20:08:51 +0000 (UTC) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature ECDSA (P-256)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.eternal-september.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A76EE5F880 for <talk-origins@moderators.isc.org>; Mon, 11 Nov 2024 20:08:49 +0000 (UTC) Authentication-Results: name/A76EE5F880; dmarc=fail (p=none dis=none) header.from=gmail.com id 3C2A4DC01A9; Mon, 11 Nov 2024 21:08:49 +0100 (CET) X-Injection-Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2024 21:08:49 +0100 (CET) Content-Language: en-US X-Auth-Sender: U2FsdGVkX1+22o2av46YB+u589+7WVLGn9kiSmy4Gys= FREEMAIL_FORGED_REPLYTO,FREEMAIL_REPLYTO_END_DIGIT, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,NML_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_BLOCKED,SPF_HELO_NONE,SPF_PASS,URIBL_BLOCKED, USER_IN_WELCOMELIST,USER_IN_WHITELIST autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.6 smtp.eternal-september.org Bytes: 3799 https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2024/11/241108113302.htm https://www.nature.com/articles/s41588-024-01960-y The Nature article is paywalled. Unlike the Neanderthal interbreeding that may have been a single event that resulted in the Neanderthal DNA that modern human populations have there is pretty good evidence that multiple interbreeding events in different parts of the world occurred between modern humans and Denisovans. They identify 4 distinct populations of Denisovans that may have interbred with modern humans. The overhype of the Science Daily article includes South America as a possible place where Denisovans may have existed, but the evidence for this in the review article was minimal. They could have made it over to America, but didn't leave much evidence of their existence. Denisovans probably lived through around 5 ice ages in Asia. So there were likely as many chances to get over to America as there was to get to the Philippines and New Guinea. The review claims that better analytical methods need to be developed to figure out where the Denisovan DNA came from in South America. The Denisovans interbred with Asians multiple times, and there is even the possibility that the bits of genome came over with genomes coming in after the European colonization. Ron Okimoto