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From: Mikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi>
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Subject: Re: The philosophy of computation reformulates existing ideas on a new basis ---x86 code is a liar?
Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2024 12:58:13 +0200
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On 2024-11-12 13:58:03 +0000, olcott said:

> On 11/12/2024 1:12 AM, joes wrote:
>> Am Mon, 11 Nov 2024 10:35:57 -0600 schrieb olcott:
>>> On 11/11/2024 10:25 AM, joes wrote:
>>>> Am Mon, 11 Nov 2024 08:58:02 -0600 schrieb olcott:
>>>>> On 11/11/2024 4:54 AM, Mikko wrote:
>>>>>> On 2024-11-09 14:36:07 +0000, olcott said:
>>>>>>> On 11/9/2024 7:53 AM, Mikko wrote:
>> 
>>>>> The actual computation itself does involve HHH emulating itself
>>>>> emulating DDD. To simply pretend that this does not occur seems
>>>>> dishonest.
>>>> Which is what you are doing: you pretend that DDD calls some other HHH
>>>> that doesn’t abort.
>>> DDD emulated by HHH does not reach its "return" instruction final halt
>>> state whether HHH aborts its emulation or not.
>> When DDD calls a simulator that aborts, that simulator returns to DDD,
>> which then halts.
>> 
> 
> It is not the same DDD as the DDD under test.

If the DDD under the test is not the same as DDD then the test
is performed incorrectly and the test result is not valid.

-- 
Mikko