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Path: ...!weretis.net!feeder9.news.weretis.net!news.quux.org!eternal-september.org!feeder2.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@tha.de> Newsgroups: sci.math Subject: Re: Incompleteness of Cantor's enumeration of the rational numbers Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2024 11:20:33 +0100 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 63 Message-ID: <vh4itg$2o3vu$1@dont-email.me> References: <vg7cp8$9jka$1@dont-email.me> <vggh9v$27rg8$3@dont-email.me> <ff2c4d7c-33b4-4aad-a6b2-88799097b86b@att.net> <vghuoc$2j3sg$1@dont-email.me> <d79e791d-d670-4a5a-bd26-fdf72bcde6bc@att.net> <vgj4lk$2ova9$3@dont-email.me> <f154138e-4482-4267-9332-151e2fd9f1ba@att.net> <vgkoi7$b5pp$1@solani.org> <6d9f3b10-47ad-459c-9536-098ce91f514b@att.net> <vgni02$3osmc$1@dont-email.me> <16028da0-456b-47ad-8baa-7982a7cbdf10@att.net> <vgpupb$abrr$2@dont-email.me> <fc4df00f-96d1-402f-89d2-739cb8ddd863@att.net> <vgsg04$t7fk$1@dont-email.me> <1fca3a53-1cb4-4fd2-85b6-85e9b69ca23b@att.net> <vgtpmo$153hf$6@dont-email.me> <d17f7542-986e-4897-89b4-dccaf11d5311@att.net> <vh00jj$1m6co$1@dont-email.me> <97304048-24f5-4625-82a7-d17427f2f6e3@att.net> <vh0hta$1pmql$1@dont-email.me> <65febd06-662b-4fa4-9aa8-f7353a79a110@att.net> <vh2k9p$29cql$1@dont-email.me> <157a949d-6c19-4693-8cee-9e067268ae45@att.net> <vh35nd$2d81g$1@dont-email.me> <cb0c9917-09a9-45f0-8fe9-cd059fa82dde@att.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2024 11:20:33 +0100 (CET) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="49a7df18b38a0ad443caea214013b424"; logging-data="2887678"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX19PVbwv3XMkiG8xneLHAHOXmlQrvY81nAw=" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:JRoZXXVzOvn5Z1Ydr7BODncbyw0= In-Reply-To: <cb0c9917-09a9-45f0-8fe9-cd059fa82dde@att.net> Content-Language: en-US Bytes: 3841 On 14.11.2024 00:16, Jim Burns wrote: > A finite ๐๐ฒ๐พ๐๐ฒ๐ป๐ฐ๐ฒ of ๐ฐ๐น๐ฎ๐ถ๐บ๐ in which > each claim is true.or.not.first.false > is > a finite ๐๐ฒ๐พ๐๐ฒ๐ป๐ฐ๐ฒ of ๐ฐ๐น๐ฎ๐ถ๐บ๐ in which > each claim is true. > > Some claims are true and we know it > because > they claim that > when we say this, we mean that, > and we, conscious of our own minds, know that > when we say this, we mean that. > > Some ๐ฐ๐น๐ฎ๐ถ๐บ๐ are not.first.false and we know it > because > we can see that > no assignment of truth.values exists > in which ๐๐ต๐ฒ๐ are first.false. > ๐พ is not first.false in โจ ๐ฝ ๐ฝโ๐พ ๐พ โฉ. > > Some finite ๐๐ฒ๐พ๐๐ฒ๐ป๐ฐ๐ฒ๐ of ๐ฐ๐น๐ฎ๐ถ๐บ๐ are > each true.or.not.first.false > and we know it. > > When we know that, > we know each claim is true. > > We know each claim is true, even if > it is a claim physically impossible to check, > like it would be physically impossible > to check each one of infinitely.many. > Here is a single claim which is true: The covering of a geometric figure by a set of similar smaller intervals is independent of the order of the intervals. That holds for every finite figure and, by applying the analytical limit, also for infinite figures like XOOO... XOOO... XOOO... XOOO... .... or 0---------_1_--------_2_--------_3_---... Therefore a geometric representation let alone proof of most of Cantor's bijections is impossible. Belief in set theory excludes belief in geometry. All babble about Completely Scattered Space in cases of I(n) = [n - sqrt(2)/2^n, n + sqrt(2)/2^n] or I(n) = [n - 1/2^n, n + 1/2^n] is to no avail and useless from the outset. Regards, WM