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From: Zen Cycle <funkmaster@hotmail.com>
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.tech
Subject: Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: Fine Tuning Shifting
Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2024 07:23:11 -0500
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On 11/13/2024 7:50 PM, cyclintom wrote:
> On Mon Nov 11 17:06:45 2024 Zen Cycle  wrote:
>> On 11/11/2024 1:29 PM, cyclintom wrote:
>>> On Fri Sep 13 12:10:23 2024 Zen Cycle  wrote:
>>>> On 9/11/2024 8:09 PM, Tom Kunich wrote:
>>>>> On Wed, 11 Sep 2024 16:57:58 -0400, Zen Cycle wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 9/11/2024 4:25 PM, cyclintom wrote:
>>>>>>> On Fri Aug 16 17:32:19 2024 Jeff Liebermann  wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Fri, 16 Aug 2024 13:51:44 -0400, Zen Cycle <funkmaster@hotmail.com>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> No one I've ever worked with in my 40+ years in this industry has
>>>>>>>>> ever been called 'sparky' except for the aforementioned intern. Your
>>>>>>>>> inane claim is about a valid as claiming I'm not an engineer because
>>>>>>>>> I don't call fiber optics light lines.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>      It was also used to refer to Radio operators and Liebermann could
>>>>>>>>> verify that if he wasn't more interested in protecting your
>>>>>>>>> intelgrity
>>>>>>>> >from your own comments.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Sparky was a slang name for the electric chair in US prisons:
>>>>>>>> <https://greensdictofslang.com/entry/ylyhrla>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Sparks was a slang name for a spark gap radio operator or a
>>>>>>>> theater/film lighting operator:
>>>>>>>> <https://greensdictofslang.com/entry/2fsl4qy>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I spent a large part of my working career in the 2-way radio business
>>>>>>>> and don't recall anyone being called sparky or sparks.  Same with ham
>>>>>>>> radio and broadcast engineering.  Such names sound good in movies and
>>>>>>>> videos, but elsewhere are treated as derogatory.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I've previously mentioned that I can easily determine whether someone
>>>>>>>> has had relevant experience in any trade, profession or disciple by
>>>>>>>> inspecting the manner in which they handle industry specific names,
>>>>>>>> acronyms, jargon, technologies, buzzwords, trademarks etc.  Someone
>>>>>>>> with experience will use all of these correctly.  Someone pretending
>>>>>>>> to have relevant experience will always make a mess of it.  (Yes, I do
>>>>>>>> mean always).  Even someone with extensive prior experience, but no
>>>>>>>> recent experience, will have problems because the jargon often change
>>>>>>>> with time.  Tom's misuse of industry jargon and inventing new terms,
>>>>>>>> is a good example of not having any experience.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "Better to Remain Silent and Be Thought a Fool than to Speak and
>>>>>>>> Remove All Doubt"
>>>>>>>> <https://quoteinvestigator.com/2010/05/17/remain-silent/>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>> Jeff Liebermann                 jeffl@cruzio.com PO Box 272
>>>>>>>> http://www.LearnByDestroying.com Ben Lomond CA 95005-0272 Skype:
>>>>>>>> JeffLiebermann      AE6KS    831-336-2558
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Jeff, you spent most of your life scrabbling around trying to make a
>>>>>>> living. Stop trying to convince anyone that you know anything.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Tell us again how water is used to put out gasoline fires?
>>>>>
>>>>> Do you always have to prove me right concerning your IQ?
>>>>
>>>> I've always proved you wrong about my IQ, as proven (yet again) below.
>>>>
>>>> Gasoline butns at
>>>>> 540 degrees F.
>>>>
>>>> Gasoline autoignites at 536F. That flash point is -45F. Neither fact
>>>> means you can out out a gas fire with water.
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Lithium Ion fires are MUCH hotter and self sustaining. Fire departments no
>>>>> longer even try to put them out.
>>>>>
>>>>> But of course you knew that, didn't you?
>>>>
>>>> yup.
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> https://theconversation.com/what-causes-lithium-ion-battery-fires-why-are-
>>>>> they-so-intense-and-how-should-they-be-fought-an-expert-explains-214470
>>>>>
>>>>> One of these days someone is going to force you to tell the truth -
>>>>> probably your managers.
>>>>
>>>> Oh, you mean like how gasoline fires should be put out with water?
>>>>
>>>>     And when your activities come out, you are going
>>>>> to be SOL.
>>>>
>>>> I have a highly visible position. Everyone is aware of my activities -
>>>> it's why I've been given consistent raises and promotions, have a PC in
>>>> my office to stream bike races during the work day, and no one bats an
>>>> eye when I alter my schedule to accommodate daylight for my commutes.
>>>> I'm quite sure* no one gives a rats ass if I post to usenet a few times
>>>> a day.
>>>>
>>>> * and remember, sparky, "quite sure" = "completely confident".
>>>>
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>>>
>>> 3
>>
>>
>> ooo, september, this one's only two months old!
>>
>>>
>>> Why do you always have to show your ignorance? Its Lower Flammability Limit (LFL) is 1.4% and its Upper Flammability Limit (UFL) is 7.6%. That means that you can extinguish a gas fire simply by cutting off its access to oxygen
>>
>> You can extinguish any fire by cutting off its access to oxygen
>>
>>>   with CO2 or even water which can spread gasoline so thinly that the gas concentration is below the flammible limit.
>>
>> Sure sparky - find me a link or a recommendation from any fire
>> prevention authority who recommends putting out a gasoline fire with
>> water. CO2, yes, water, no.
>>
>> You've been given links from fire prevention professionals stating very
>> explicitly  not to put out gasoline fires with water. If you think its
>> the right way to do, post a link that states so.
>>
>>
>>> Flunky apparently doesn't mind being a fool if he thinks it will gain him points with Liebermann.
>>
>> I'm not the one digging up three month old discussion and arguing
>> against fire safety professionals, you little fool.
>>
>>>
>>> And by the way, you still haven't told us how long you've been divorced.
>>
>> That's because I'm not divorced.
>>
>>> And gon't even try to say you aren't after telling us that you spend all your time with your "friends."
>>
>> Where did I write that I spend all my time with my friends?
>>
>> Really tommy, you need to stop projecting your shitty marriage on
>> everyone else.
>>
>>
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> 
> 
> 
> Only an idiot like you doesn't know that fire departments well know how to put out gas fires with water.

no, tommy, they don't. Only an idiot thinks they do.
> 
> And the drooling idiot doesn't know that LITHIUM ION batteries cannot be put out with CO2 because they generate their own Oxygen.>  This is WHY fire departments tried to use WATER and not CO2 to lower the temperature below the ignition point.

Where did I ever write that Li battery fires are put out with CO2?

ps, why do you insist on shouting LITHIUM ION?


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