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From: olcott <polcott333@gmail.com>
Newsgroups: comp.theory
Subject: Re: The philosophy of computation reformulates existing ideas on a
 new basis ---x86 code is a liar?
Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2024 17:53:38 -0600
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On 11/14/2024 3:09 AM, Mikko wrote:
> On 2024-11-13 23:11:30 +0000, olcott said:
> 
>> On 11/13/2024 4:58 AM, Mikko wrote:
>>> On 2024-11-12 13:58:03 +0000, olcott said:
>>>
>>>> On 11/12/2024 1:12 AM, joes wrote:
>>>>> Am Mon, 11 Nov 2024 10:35:57 -0600 schrieb olcott:
>>>>>> On 11/11/2024 10:25 AM, joes wrote:
>>>>>>> Am Mon, 11 Nov 2024 08:58:02 -0600 schrieb olcott:
>>>>>>>> On 11/11/2024 4:54 AM, Mikko wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On 2024-11-09 14:36:07 +0000, olcott said:
>>>>>>>>>> On 11/9/2024 7:53 AM, Mikko wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The actual computation itself does involve HHH emulating itself
>>>>>>>> emulating DDD. To simply pretend that this does not occur seems
>>>>>>>> dishonest.
>>>>>>> Which is what you are doing: you pretend that DDD calls some 
>>>>>>> other HHH
>>>>>>> that doesn’t abort.
>>>>>> DDD emulated by HHH does not reach its "return" instruction final 
>>>>>> halt
>>>>>> state whether HHH aborts its emulation or not.
>>>>> When DDD calls a simulator that aborts, that simulator returns to DDD,
>>>>> which then halts.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> It is not the same DDD as the DDD under test.
>>>
>>> If the DDD under the test is not the same as DDD then the test
>>> is performed incorrectly and the test result is not valid.
>>>
>>
>> The DDD under test IS THE INPUT DDD
>> IT IS STUPIDLY WRONG-HEADED TO THINK OTHERWISE.
> 
> I agree that there is only one DDD but above you said otherwise.
> 

That is a ridiculously stupid thing to say because we
already know that DDD emulated by HHH emulates itself
emulating DDD and DDD emulated by HHH1 *DOES NOT DO THAT*


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