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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder2.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> Newsgroups: sci.electronics.design Subject: Re: Final final 1kHz oscillator Date: Fri, 15 Nov 2024 19:56:09 +1100 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 620 Message-ID: <vh72bm$3b6ip$1@dont-email.me> References: <vglt5t$30a3$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com> <t5fajjdteskfftvkf84iqsp2vc4b9ta5kj@4ax.com> <vh57l4$2knt$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Fri, 15 Nov 2024 09:56:24 +0100 (CET) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="4a0826501f67c7682dffa00fdcd2f9ba"; logging-data="3512921"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1+AsFzqt0+Ly3Ah5Cy/xc5pfUNDZ3IHCIQ=" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:UWBqHs8s+nfFFscHjAMHNcxe+XU= Content-Language: en-US In-Reply-To: <vh57l4$2knt$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com> X-Antivirus: Norton (VPS 241115-0, 15/11/2024), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Bytes: 17815 On 15/11/2024 3:14 am, Edward Rawde wrote: > "JM" <sunaecoNoChoppedPork@gmail.com> wrote in message news:t5fajjdteskfftvkf84iqsp2vc4b9ta5kj@4ax.com... >> On Fri, 8 Nov 2024 15:43:41 -0500, "Edward Rawde" >> <invalid@invalid.invalid> wrote: I finally got around to digging out my AD734 based Wein bridge simulation, and created a FET based version. It's got a nasty 163kHz generator embedded in it somewhere, and I've put in an RL filter to keep that under control. The double Sallen and Keys network is a four pole Bessel filter which I'm using as a 250usec delay line - the output from the full wave rectifier has an appreciable 2kHz component, but the delayed contribution coming into the integrator through R9 roughly cancels the direct input through R20. R10 in the integrator damps the amplitude feedback loop for a dead-beat response. The harmonics in the 1kHz output are about 100dB below the fundamental. Not great, but respectable, and not worth trying to improve in a simulation. The circuit still works with the worst case values for the 1% capacitors at C5 and C6. 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