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From: Frank Krygowski <frkrygow@sbcglobal.net>
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Subject: Re: 1972 Legnano in the news
Date: Fri, 15 Nov 2024 10:35:38 -0500
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On 11/15/2024 6:24 AM, Roger Merriman wrote:
> Frank Krygowski <frkrygow@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>> On 11/14/2024 1:37 PM, cyclintom wrote:
>>> On Fri Nov 8 22:18:33 2024 Frank Krygowski  wrote:
>>>> On 11/8/2024 8:49 PM, AMuzi wrote:
>>>>> Check the photos here:
>>>>>
>>>>> https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-14061289/Emmy-award-
>>>>> winner-1970s-sitcom-unrecognizable-77-bikes-LA.html
>>>>
>>>> Whoa! Exposed cables! Down tube friction shifting! Center pull brakes!
>>>> 36 spoke wheels! Full sized frame pump! And she's not in a "protected"
>>>> bike lane! Is it even possible to ride that way?  ;-)
>>>>
>>>> "She adhered to safety regulations by having a black helmet on, wore
>>>> pink trainers and had a red jacket tied around her waist" is nonsense.
>>>> There is no helmet regulation that applies to her.
>>>>
>>>> And the jacket around her waist is not a particularly good idea,
>>>> although it's at least better than tying it around the handlebars. I
>>>> know a guy who did that and had a sleeve dangle into his front wheel.
>>>> His next couple seconds were far from fun.
>>>>
>>>> -- 
>>>> - Frank Krygowski
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Virtually every main street in California has bike lanes. Even many wide
>>> enough neighborhood streets do as well So how do you know she isn't in one.
>>
>> I said she wasn't in a "protected" bike lane. If she were, there would
>> have been parked cars, or concrete walls, or at least plastic posts to
>> her left. But the frontal photo of her standing with one foot on the
>> curb seems to show there's not even a bike lane stripe.
>>
>> Since none of those features are present, then according to the current
>> crop of hand wringing lobbyists, her riding is intensely dangerous. Oh,
>> the humanity!
>>
> 
> Again that’s you crying danger danger, ...

Sorry, but you completely mis-read.

Note that I did _not_ say it was dangerous. Instead, I said "the current 
crop of hand wringing lobbyists" would claim her riding is dangerous.

> in general segregation works in
> certain places, even cities like Amsterdam you’ll mix with cars on some
> roads or have just painted lanes and so on.

It does work in "certain places." Those places are far fewer than 
current advocacy fashion proclaims.


-- 
- Frank Krygowski