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From: Tom Elam <thomas.e.elam@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: Thank you EU!
Date: Fri, 15 Nov 2024 11:04:39 -0500
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On 11/10/2024 5:06 PM, Alan wrote:
> On 2024-11-10 13:43, Tom Elam wrote:
>> On 11/8/2024 1:49 PM, Alan wrote:
>>> On 2024-11-08 04:41, Tom Elam wrote:
>>>> On 11/5/2024 4:23 PM, Alan wrote:
>>>>> On 2024-11-05 13:13, Tom Elam wrote:
>>>>>> On 11/4/2024 1:48 PM, Alan wrote:
>>>>>>> On 2024-11-04 10:17, Tom Elam wrote:
>>>>>>>> Finally, we get to choose more defaults outside the Walled 
>>>>>>>> Garden! Here is one that has happened recently for me but not 
>>>>>>>> picked up in recent articles on v.18.2.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The other day I asked Siri for directions via CarPlay by saying 
>>>>>>>> "Drive to (place) using Google Maps". Since then Siri defaults 
>>>>>>>> to Google Maps whereas Apple maps was the default unless you 
>>>>>>>> asked for Google Maps again. Today I also asked for directions 
>>>>>>>> to a nearest (brand name) store location from with a brand's 
>>>>>>>> app. I was give a choice of Apple or Google Maps. Apps defaulted 
>>>>>>>> to Apple maps before this Siri change, no choice offered.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Brick by brick the Wall Garden is coming down. Apple will be 
>>>>>>>> better for it.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Apple creates something that works so well for so many people...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ...that big government wants them to destroy it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> LOL! Opening up the platform makes it more appealing. You still 
>>>>>> have the Apple defaults.
>>>>>
>>>>> That's a business's decision to make, isn't it?
>>>> That's a nonsense reply. It's a business's decision if Apple's terms 
>>>> permit a decision. Like, for instance, as an Apple app owner do I 
>>>> want to use the Apple Store to complete a purchase or fulfill it 
>>>> myself through a third party? Big brick in the wall, that is not 
>>>> permitted.
>>>
>>> Are you really this stupid?
>>>
>>> Your last argument was "Apple will be better for it".
>>>
>>> Think about that...
>>>
>>> ...if thinking is something you actually do.
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Back to your point that it works well for a lot of people, how does 
>>>> that change if you stick to default Apple apps?
>>>>
>>>> Next up, Apple is going to see a major EU fine if they don't open up 
>>>> in- app purchase options. One small step in that direction has 
>>>> happened. We use Kindle Unlimited a bit. Those books are included in 
>>>> the Unlimited subscription. Until recently on iOS you had to get 
>>>> your Unlimited books from the Amazon site, not the Amazon app, even 
>>>> though the subscription covers the cost. Now you can select and load 
>>>> on the Kindle app an Unlimited book right off the app. That was very 
>>>> inconvenient, and might push someone to use Apple's Books app.  A 
>>>> very small garden wall brick gone.
>>>>
>>>> If the EU succeeds in opening up lower cost in-app purchases 
>>>> consummated outside the app Apple has a business decision to make. 
>>>> Like maybe lower their cut of in-app purchases to something 
>>>> reflecting their cost instead of the monopolistic rates they can 
>>>> charge now by not allowing purchase completion until they get their 
>>>> cut.
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Better, as in not as monopolistic. If they don't change the U.S. and 
>> EU are going to bring the company down.
> So by that logic (extended), it would be better for you to give me all 
> your money...
> 
> ...rather than me shooting and killing you.

LOL. You have bragged about Apple being the only company making much 
money on smartphones then in denial about why that is true.