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Path: ...!news.nobody.at!weretis.net!feeder8.news.weretis.net!reader5.news.weretis.net!news.solani.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> Newsgroups: sci.logic Subject: Re: they shoot themselves into the foot (Re: Good Bye Stack-Overflow) Date: Fri, 15 Nov 2024 17:10:19 +0100 Message-ID: <vh7rpb$7hj8$1@solani.org> References: <vh6bui$6mlv$2@solani.org> <vh7qhk$7ghd$3@solani.org> <vh7r11$7gs4$1@solani.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Fri, 15 Nov 2024 16:10:19 -0000 (UTC) Injection-Info: solani.org; logging-data="247400"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@news.solani.org" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:91.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/91.0 SeaMonkey/2.53.19 Cancel-Lock: sha1:c/jLnwAAcWjHbMOranwyo9vomPA= X-User-ID: eJwNx8EBwCAIA8CVwJhQxykC+4/Q3u8IuW5sUZvDWbc6AD94meqiZcmWr6Ru2oPZz/8cZ9BBWTkPhj3eJ+MDQGYUyA== In-Reply-To: <vh7r11$7gs4$1@solani.org> Bytes: 4682 Lines: 121 Also Stack Overflow is very bad in reading the signs of the times: Generative AI is now integral to the technologist workflow, yet many developers are still skeptical. According to our 2024 #Developer Survey, 79% of respondents cited misinformation as their primary ethical concern regarding AI. https://x.com/stackoverflow/ The survey is not so bad: https://survey.stackoverflow.co/2024/ai So they have it right in front of their nose that they should shut down their grammar nazi nonsense and find new ways, alternative ways to harness and curate knowlegde? Bye Mild Shock schrieb: > Hi, > > I personally like that ChatGPT tolerates all my > sloppiness, since I am always in a hurry, don't > have time for some bullshit. > > And I pay the bill by myself, if ChatGPT doesn't > understand me. I don't need some moderator to > force some ideal into my throat, anyway > > most of the time ChatGPT understands me > nevertheless. Has probably to do how > the artificial intelligenc of ChatGPT works: > > Attention Is All You Need > https://arxiv.org/abs/1706.03762 > > But stack overflow gets also drained by other > developments like for example: > > - Thousends of tutorial web sites: > There is a real cottage industry, of > commercial web sites, that explain you > web programming etc.. They are commercial > since they show banner ads. > > - Thousends of tutorial videos: > There is a similar cottage industry > for videos. Also commercial because > the show ads. Even google search > doesn't show stack overflow as first > result anymore. > > - Declining Business Model Job Search > With "low code", the number of programmer > jobs as we know it will go down. A website > specialized on job advertising will automatically > loose revenue: > > https://stackoverflow.co/advertising/ > > Bye > > Mild Shock schrieb: >> Hi, >> >> Yes exactly, they shoot themselves into the foot. >> They adopted the academic closed world attitute, >> as can be seen here, not noticing that the John >> >> Doe programmers are not necessarily a theoretical >> computer science titanic A-class member: >> >> As an example, consider this question – invented, but not far-fetched: >> "Random keeps giving me the same numbers. Is it broken?" >> This is a low-quality question, in my view. >> https://codeblog.jonskeet.uk/2018/03/17/stack-overflow-culture/ >> >> Now try the same with ChatGPT: >> >> Q: Random keeps giving me the same numbers. Is it broken? >> >> A: It sounds like your Random object might not be >> re-seeded, which could cause it to generate the same >> sequence of numbers every time you run your program. >> By default, Random is seeded with the current time in >> milliseconds, but if you create it multiple times in >> quick succession, it might receive the same seed and >> generate the same numbers. >> >> Bye >> >> Mild Shock schrieb: >>> Hi, >>> >>> The cest pool of bit rot is finally gone: >>> >>> (Bit rot, because they did everything in a >>> facist way ignoring your copyright to prevent >>> you from deleting you own out dated stuff) >>> >>> CoincidenceIDontThinkSo >>> https://9gag.com/gag/abAG4oE >>> >>> The Fall of Stack Overflow >>> https://observablehq.com/@ayhanfuat/the-fall-of-stack-overflow >>> >>> The downfall is related to the appearance of >>> ChatGPT. I feel pitty for Ulrich Neumerkel false >>> and others who spammed stackoverflow for years >>> >>> with their infinite dif/2 nonsense. >>> >>> Bye >> >