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From: Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm>
Newsgroups: comp.lang.prolog
Subject: Re: they shoot themselves into the foot (Re: Good Bye Stack-Overflow)
Date: Fri, 15 Nov 2024 18:00:58 +0100
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Or just give up Q&A sites all together. They
live in a bubble that they sit on a treasure.

Any clue why? Simply because text will pretty soon
not be mandatory anymore for training of Chat bots:

Early 2000s: Automatic transcription services were
rudimentary, relying on basic speech recognition
software with limited accuracy.

2010s: The technology began to improve significantly
with the development of deep learning and neural
networks. Platforms like YouTube introduced automatic
captions in 2006, but they were often unreliable
and required manual corrections.

2016–2018: Major tech companies, including Google and
Microsoft, launched more advanced speech-to-text
services. These platforms utilized machine learning
algorithms and large datasets to provide more
  accurate transcriptions.

2020–2023: With advancements in AI and natural language
processing (NLP), transcription services became much
more accurate and widely available. Companies like Rev,
Otter.ai, and others began offering services with high
accuracy and specialized features (such as speaker
identification, real-time transcription, and more).

But ChatGPT isn't there yet?

Although ChatGPT itself is not directly trained
on video data, multimodal models (such as GPT-4's
ability to process images) are paving the way for
broader applications of video-based learning in AI.

So the cottage industry of training videos
will be the next target of knowledge harvesting?
Directly incorporating your professors lectures?

LoL

Mild Shock schrieb:
> Hi,
> 
> Also Stack Overflow is very bad in reading
> the signs of the times:
> 
> Generative AI is now integral to the
> technologist workflow, yet many developers
> are still skeptical. According to our 2024
> #Developer Survey, 79% of respondents cited
> misinformation as their primary ethical
> concern regarding AI.
> https://x.com/stackoverflow/
> 
> The survey is not so bad:
> https://survey.stackoverflow.co/2024/ai
> 
> So they have it right in front of their
> nose that they should shut down
> 
> their grammar nazi nonsense and find
> new ways, alternative ways to harness
> 
> and curate knowlegde?
> 
> Bye
> 
> Mild Shock schrieb:
>> Hi,
>>
>> I personally like that ChatGPT tolerates all my
>> sloppiness, since I am always in a hurry, don't
>> have time for some bullshit.
>>
>> And I pay the bill by myself, if ChatGPT doesn't
>> understand me. I don't need some moderator to
>> force some ideal into my throat, anyway
>>
>> most of the time ChatGPT understands me
>> nevertheless. Has probably to do how
>> the artificial intelligenc of ChatGPT works:
>>
>> Attention Is All You Need
>> https://arxiv.org/abs/1706.03762
>>
>> But stack overflow gets also drained by other
>> developments like for example:
>>
>> - Thousends of tutorial web sites:
>>    There is a real cottage industry, of
>>    commercial web sites, that explain you
>>    web programming etc.. They are commercial
>>    since they show banner ads.
>>
>> - Thousends of tutorial videos:
>>    There is a similar cottage industry
>>    for videos. Also commercial because
>>    the show ads. Even google search
>>    doesn't show stack overflow as first
>>    result anymore.
>>
>> - Declining Business Model Job Search
>>    With "low code", the number of programmer
>>    jobs as we know it will go down. A website
>>    specialized on job advertising will automatically
>>    loose revenue:
>>
>> https://stackoverflow.co/advertising/
>>
>> Bye
>>
>> Mild Shock schrieb:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> Yes exactly, they shoot themselves into the foot.
>>> They adopted the academic closed world attitute,
>>> as can be seen here, not noticing that the John
>>>
>>> Doe programmers are not necessarily a theoretical
>>> computer science titanic A-class member:
>>>
>>> As an example, consider this question – invented, but not far-fetched:
>>> "Random keeps giving me the same numbers. Is it broken?"
>>> This is a low-quality question, in my view.
>>> https://codeblog.jonskeet.uk/2018/03/17/stack-overflow-culture/
>>>
>>> Now try the same with ChatGPT:
>>>
>>> Q: Random keeps giving me the same numbers. Is it broken?
>>>
>>> A: It sounds like your Random object might not be
>>> re-seeded, which could cause it to generate the same
>>> sequence of numbers every time you run your program.
>>> By default, Random is seeded with the current time in
>>>   milliseconds, but if you create it multiple times in
>>> quick succession, it might receive the same seed and
>>> generate the same numbers.
>>>
>>> Bye
>>>
>>> Mild Shock schrieb:
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> The cest pool of bit rot is finally gone:
>>>>
>>>> (Bit rot, because they did everything in a
>>>> facist way ignoring your copyright to prevent
>>>> you from deleting you own out dated stuff)
>>>>
>>>> CoincidenceIDontThinkSo
>>>> https://9gag.com/gag/abAG4oE
>>>>
>>>> The Fall of Stack Overflow
>>>> https://observablehq.com/@ayhanfuat/the-fall-of-stack-overflow
>>>>
>>>> The downfall is related to the appearance of
>>>> ChatGPT. I feel pitty for Ulrich Neumerkel false
>>>> and others who spammed stackoverflow for years
>>>>
>>>> with their infinite dif/2 nonsense.
>>>>
>>>> Bye
>>
>