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From: "Ian J. Ball" <ijball@mac.invalid>
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Subject: Re: What Did You Watch? 2024-11-14 (Thursday)
Date: Fri, 15 Nov 2024 10:26:47 -0800
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On 11/15/24 10:11 AM, BTR1701 wrote:
> On Nov 15, 2024 at 10:09:52 AM PST, "anim8rfsk" <anim8rfsk@cox.net> wrote:
>> Ian J. Ball <ijball@mac.invalid> wrote:
>>> On 11/15/24 1:30 AM, Ubiquitous wrote:
>>>
>>>> What did you watch?
>>>
>>> On the day I woke up at 3:30am and couldn't get back to sleep, I finally
>>> managed to get through "Deadpool & Wolverine", and also a Lifetime flick.
>>>
>>> So I watched:
>>>
>>> Deadpool & Wolverine (Disney+) - Going in, I expected this - but this
>>> was definitely less funny than the first two "Deadpool" flicks,
>>> especially "2" (which is my favorite).
>>> And the recurring characters from the first two flicks, even Morena
>>> Baccarin, get little more than cameos here (and T.J. Miller's character
>>> is completely memory-holed without reference; Brad Pitt's "character"
>>> from "2" is also inexplicably absent, though this one may have gotten an
>>> oblique reference!).
>>> In short, this flick suffered a lot of the same problems as "Ant-Man
>>> 3" - generally ignoring cast/characters from the first two films; being
>>> less funny (pretty much *un*funny in the case of "Ant-Man 3"!);
>>> launching into a new "quest" with a new "big bad" that we don't
>>> particularly care about - though this one is admittedly a lot better
>>> than "Ant-Man 3"!
>>> The other problem I had with this one was its deliberately much
>>> closer integration with the rest of the "MCU" (and especially in the
>>> recent "Multiverse" stuff) - the first two films worked as well as they
>>> did, I believe, exactly *because* they were nowhere near the MCU, and
>>> only had ties to 20th Century Fox's "X-Men" flicks. This one explicitly
>>> *forces* both Deadpool, and Wolverine, into the MCU, and the film wasn't
>>> the better for it, IMO.
>>> What does work here are the cameos. I don't want to spoil it, but
>>> some of the cameos actually wowed me, because I didn't see them coming,
>>> and they tie this film in with some earlier franchise stuff that was
>>> pre-MCU as well.
>>> That said, I was disappointed that Channing Tatum was playing Gambit
>>> here (yes, I know he's wanted the role for years!), and that poor Taylor
>>> Kitsch was once again ignored.
>>> Sidenote: I had totally - I mean totally! - forgotten that Chris
>>> Evans was in the original "Fantastic Four" flicks!
>>
>> Oh, I did. And he was just as miscast in that as he was as Captain America,
>> and as every other actor in the same role in the fantastic, four flicks has
>> been.
>>
>>> Anyway, some of this does work - I really like the montage where
>>> Deadpool tries to find himself a "Wolverine" in the Multiverse and keeps
>>> getting brutally beaten by various versions (including by "The
>>> Cavillrine"! Ha!!). And the creepy looking dog with the mutant tongue
>>> ("Dogpool") is a great bit too.
>>
>> Apparently, one of those was Reynold’s daughter and one was his kid.
>
> Wouldn't daughter and kid be the same thing?
I take this to mean one was Reynold's daughter, and another was
Jackman's kid.