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From: olcott <polcott333@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: The philosophy of computation reformulates existing ideas on a
 new basis ---x86 code is a liar?
Date: Fri, 15 Nov 2024 17:43:02 -0600
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On 11/15/2024 3:19 AM, Mikko wrote:
> On 2024-11-14 23:53:38 +0000, olcott said:
> 
>> On 11/14/2024 3:09 AM, Mikko wrote:
>>> On 2024-11-13 23:11:30 +0000, olcott said:
>>>
>>>> On 11/13/2024 4:58 AM, Mikko wrote:
>>>>> On 2024-11-12 13:58:03 +0000, olcott said:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 11/12/2024 1:12 AM, joes wrote:
>>>>>>> Am Mon, 11 Nov 2024 10:35:57 -0600 schrieb olcott:
>>>>>>>> On 11/11/2024 10:25 AM, joes wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Am Mon, 11 Nov 2024 08:58:02 -0600 schrieb olcott:
>>>>>>>>>> On 11/11/2024 4:54 AM, Mikko wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On 2024-11-09 14:36:07 +0000, olcott said:
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 11/9/2024 7:53 AM, Mikko wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> The actual computation itself does involve HHH emulating itself
>>>>>>>>>> emulating DDD. To simply pretend that this does not occur seems
>>>>>>>>>> dishonest.
>>>>>>>>> Which is what you are doing: you pretend that DDD calls some 
>>>>>>>>> other HHH
>>>>>>>>> that doesn’t abort.
>>>>>>>> DDD emulated by HHH does not reach its "return" instruction 
>>>>>>>> final halt
>>>>>>>> state whether HHH aborts its emulation or not.
>>>>>>> When DDD calls a simulator that aborts, that simulator returns to 
>>>>>>> DDD,
>>>>>>> which then halts.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It is not the same DDD as the DDD under test.
>>>>>
>>>>> If the DDD under the test is not the same as DDD then the test
>>>>> is performed incorrectly and the test result is not valid.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> The DDD under test IS THE INPUT DDD
>>>> IT IS STUPIDLY WRONG-HEADED TO THINK OTHERWISE.
>>>
>>> I agree that there is only one DDD but above you said otherwise.
>>>
>>
>> That is a ridiculously stupid thing to say because we
>> already know that DDD emulated by HHH emulates itself
>> emulating DDD and DDD emulated by HHH1 *DOES NOT DO THAT*
> 
> You are free to laugh if you think the truth is stupid.
> 

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