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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder2.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Moebius <invalid@example.invalid> Newsgroups: sci.math Subject: Re: Incompleteness of Cantor's enumeration of the rational numbers Date: Sat, 16 Nov 2024 01:27:25 +0100 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 38 Message-ID: <vh8otd$3lhlt$2@dont-email.me> References: <vg7cp8$9jka$1@dont-email.me> <vgkoi7$b5pp$1@solani.org> <6d9f3b10-47ad-459c-9536-098ce91f514b@att.net> <vgni02$3osmc$1@dont-email.me> <16028da0-456b-47ad-8baa-7982a7cbdf10@att.net> <vgpupb$abrr$2@dont-email.me> <fc4df00f-96d1-402f-89d2-739cb8ddd863@att.net> <vgsg04$t7fk$1@dont-email.me> <1fca3a53-1cb4-4fd2-85b6-85e9b69ca23b@att.net> <vgtpmo$153hf$6@dont-email.me> <d17f7542-986e-4897-89b4-dccaf11d5311@att.net> <vh00jj$1m6co$1@dont-email.me> <97304048-24f5-4625-82a7-d17427f2f6e3@att.net> <vh0hta$1pmql$1@dont-email.me> <65febd06-662b-4fa4-9aa8-f7353a79a110@att.net> <vh2k9p$29cql$1@dont-email.me> <157a949d-6c19-4693-8cee-9e067268ae45@att.net> <vh35nd$2d81g$1@dont-email.me> <cb0c9917-09a9-45f0-8fe9-cd059fa82dde@att.net> <vh4itg$2o3vu$1@dont-email.me> <8165b44b-1ba5-429d-8317-0b043b214b53@att.net> <vh76bi$3bnde$1@dont-email.me> <d90452a5-965b-443f-9146-96cdf9b3906c@att.net> <vh8ft0$3jqb5$3@dont-email.me> <vh8g5e$3juug$1@dont-email.me> Reply-To: invalid@example.invalid MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Sat, 16 Nov 2024 01:27:25 +0100 (CET) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="061c908e89d74e356b31fd58551b9569"; logging-data="3851965"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX19FvEOSFfchJSI+pJlSDTtQ" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:+aX0p+c03QBTe/En3FgcHdal2wY= In-Reply-To: <vh8g5e$3juug$1@dont-email.me> Content-Language: de-DE Bytes: 3196 Am 15.11.2024 um 22:58 schrieb Chris M. Thomasson: > Ugg, an infinite set is never exhausted. Taking a gallon of water out of > an infinite pool of water means you are holding a gallon water, but the > infinite pool is still infinite. The same. Taking an infinite amount of > water means the pool is still full of water. I already told you that this is not necessarily the case. See: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ross%E2%80%93Littlewood_paradox#Vase_is_empty Hint: Let's consider your claim: "an infinite set is never exhausted". But IN \ {1} \ {2} \ {3} \ ... _should_ be {}, I'd say. After all, which natural number would "remain" (=be) in the set IN \ {1} \ {2} \ {3} \ ... ? :-P Yeah, slightly "paradoxical". IN \ {1} is infinite, IN \ {1} \ {2} is infinite, IN \ {1} \ {2} \ {3} is infinite, etc. Actually, for each and everey natural number n: IN \ {1} \ ... \ {n} is infinite (in THIS sense your "never" is true). But what's about IN \ {1} \ {2} \ {3} \ ...? WHICH natural number would be in this set? :-P Be aware of the infinite! Remember: > You (WM) are misinterpreting the infinite as > ☠( just like the finite, but bigger. .. .. ..