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Path: ...!weretis.net!feeder9.news.weretis.net!news.quux.org!eternal-september.org!feeder2.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Mikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi> Newsgroups: comp.theory Subject: Re: The philosophy of logic reformulates existing ideas on a new basis --- infallibly correct Date: Sat, 16 Nov 2024 11:11:55 +0200 Organization: - Lines: 22 Message-ID: <vh9nkr$3uk0r$1@dont-email.me> References: <vfli1h$fj8s$1@dont-email.me> <vgmb06$3e37h$1@dont-email.me> <2a5107f331836f388ad259bf310311a393c00602@i2pn2.org> <vgnsho$3qq7s$2@dont-email.me> <vgo157$n00$1@news.muc.de> <vgo4ia$3sfle$1@dont-email.me> <vgo7ri$30iv$1@news.muc.de> <vgo89i$3t6n8$1@dont-email.me> <vgoand$2464$1@news.muc.de> <vgobg7$3tnrn$2@dont-email.me> <vgodcf$kll$1@news.muc.de> <vgoed9$3ucjr$1@dont-email.me> <vgoi51$kll$2@news.muc.de> <vgojp1$3v611$1@dont-email.me> <vgol50$kll$3@news.muc.de> <vgom8r$3vue8$1@dont-email.me> <vgonlv$kll$4@news.muc.de> <vgoqv6$qht$2@dont-email.me> <vgq0dv$1trm$1@news.muc.de> <vgqifj$e0q0$2@dont-email.me> <vgqnfl$2ca0$1@news.muc.de> <vgqt2v$gdj5$2@dont-email.me> <vgr04c$dfn$1@news.muc.de> <vgr3vt$hf6i$2@dont-email.me> <vgr5fv$dfn$2@news.muc.de> <vh0nm0$1qvhf$1@dont-email.me> <vh2011$25mt3$1@dont-email.me> <vh3b4u$2e37l$4@dont-email.me> <vh4cvt$2nnn2$1@dont-email.me> <vh61p3$32617$1@dont-email.me> <vh72pj$3b9fe$1@dont-email.me> <vh8mlt$3l333$4@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Sat, 16 Nov 2024 10:11:56 +0100 (CET) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="adc74453b133be1c8bcb5c026250e294"; logging-data="4149275"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1+HNYY5wCLkEkwtBF8qOxdU" User-Agent: Unison/2.2 Cancel-Lock: sha1:lS3GY5y8KURgW6xclMLHP/VQ8LA= Bytes: 2584 On 2024-11-15 23:49:17 +0000, olcott said: > On 11/15/2024 3:03 AM, Mikko wrote: >> On 2024-11-14 23:40:19 +0000, olcott said: >> >>> When you start with truth and only apply truth preserving >>> operations then you necessarily end up with truth. >> >> And if you don't you prove nothing. >> > > That is the basic model of all correct proofs. > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Syllogism#Basic_structure No, it is not. There are truth preserving transformations that do not follow that pattern. For example, the reduction rule: if A, B, and C are formulas, the recution rule permits that from A ∨ B and ¬A ∨ C can be inferred B ∨ C. -- Mikko