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From: Jos Boersema <Josjoha@market.socialism.nl>
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Jewish people convicted to live under western idolatry, because now they
get to feel how it was for the prophets to live under them: mindless,
not caring for the truth, sometimes violent and deadly.

title: OutreachJudaism.org Trailer
source: Tovia Singer
link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8plzAfvg9zM

Talking to Jewish people (Rabbis) about the Torah and about their
misreading of it, seems to be similar to how Jewish people must feel
when they talk to the absurd western idolatry system followers (Yoshke
the Bastard). The Roman idolators think the absurd, have no arguments,
ignore the text of the Torah, and so on, but you can _never convince
them of anything._ The idolators does not care about reason at all,
absolutely zero interest in reality or the truth or the obvious. It
is exactly the same with the Jewish people, who have overthrown the
Torah economy: Rambam Shemita 10:8 _overthrow of the Jubilee_ (this is
probably already the end of Israel and the start of the exile before
it became official and complete), _prozbul_ (at this point the Jewish
peolpe are in open and willfull rebellion against the Torah, a rebellion
which they keep going to this very day - believe  it or not, just check
your Shulchan Aruch paragraphs 66 and 180 (IIRC)) made up by the traitor
Hillel the Elder, and the _heter iska_ made up by the traitor Rambam /
Maimonides (a highest revered 'sage' by the rebels). Then we have the
fakery of Shabbat candle lighting, meant to cut the Shabbos short and
allow working on it shortly after sundown. (I remind: breaking the Shabbos
is a death penalty in the Torah, so what does ruining the Shabbos _law_
itself then become ?). You can talk your entire life, and the Jewish
people and their Rabbis will never care, never have an argument, never
respond even. Nothing ever useful comes, they do not *have an answer*
(which seems to be a byword for Teshuvah?).

Anyway my point was going to be, after having described the issue and
why it is true: the Jewish people may (also) have been put under these
absurd western idolators who never listen, who never care for the truth,
never care or respond to arguments, because they act the same way with
you if you are arguing in favor of the Torah (not their phony Torah, but
the actual written Torah). This is also bigger than merely an old text,
this is also about the logic and nature of *economics,* which also shows
(if you cared, but I guess you all do not) that the Torah is secularly
and scientifically (if you will) correct. It is a correct law about
economics, particularly regarding land ownership, and it is cautious
and caring in regards to its financial laws (which are possibly less
hard logic if you press on it).

You are seeing yourselves in the mirror. Is this how you treated your
'Prophets' ? Now you get treated the same way. Don't the idolators
murder you often ? This is how you treated your own prophets. You have
been convicted to what you have put your prophets through, and now they
are no more or keep silent I suppose, because the lies are still in
control. A fraudulent version of the Torah - Rabbinical Judaism - is
still in control. I imagine that if this goes on, you will eventually
again _murder_ your prophets, if they came around to argue the Torah
and not let up but kept going because they cared. You would ignore them,
eventually perhaps laugh at them, then abuse them and perhaps kill them,
as you did before, because why would it be different now ? You see how
the Yoshke the Bastard idolators accuse you of killing this idol of
theirs ? You can see that as a broader accusation from heaven, because
even though you didn't kill this never existed idol of theirs, you did
kill prophets and you did attack Moshe Rabbeinu himself as well. Now
it comes back at you, even with the exact accusation that you attacked
murdered the good guys. You also non stop get attacked by idolators
and gentiles for being greedy with money, even though they themselves
are probably 10 times worse, and the charity the Jewish people give is
legendary and probably completely unmatched in the world. Jewish people
are _not_ greedy, well at least not the base population I guess - they do
have their evil super rich people as well. However, you ruined the Torah
about finance, and turned it into laws for the rich and greedy. Prozbul
is such a fraud. Then you get attacked over it, even though it doesn't
make a lot of sense.

Don't you see the hand of heaven in all of this ? Maybe, maybe not,
but it is quite curious. These tribes used to worship various gods
meant to represent forces of nature or philosophical principles. Here
in these lands, an old trunk of a big tree was worshiped. The Romans had
all kinds of weirdness going on. Now here these people are, focussed as
one force on your culture, your Torah, and accusing you for what you are
indeed guilty, although not quite the way they put it but still. They also
execute horrors upon you, which you don't deserve according to their laws
or standards, but if you go by the Torah - then perhaps you deserved it,
because it is a harsh law and a strict law, and the punishments in it
are very severe for even light offenses (what we consider no or light
offenses, such as breaking the Shabbos).

I like to put it this way: the whole world is a love letter to you,
written by heaven. It is full of warnings and clues, so that you may
learn. The letters are the Nations of the world. See the debt crisis,
unforgiven debt ? Remember the Weimar Republic ? Unforgiven debt,
where have you seen that before ? Prozbul. Do you see this mad Casino
Capitalist system, abled bodied men sitting behind their phones betting
on huge amounts of money and getting rich without doing anything useful
at all ? Heter iska, money games against each other. None of them even
knows about the right to land, which you ruined as an example so many
centuries ago. It's all a letter to you, but you refuse to read it. When
you get told, you act like them, the idolators: you don't listen,
you don't argue your case even, your historical arguments are absurd,
and you just never care and never return to the truth.

What's the point of writing all this ? It has been going on like this for
so long, the Jewish people have decided apparently that their rebellion
will be _forever._ It cannot go on like this, the bombs are too big. The
technology is too advanced. Peace is needed, also if not especially for
the gentiles. You have to return to the truth, in this generation. You
have to overcome your crazy behavior and your own lies about the Torah,
you have to turn your hard neck and bow it down before the truth, like
every other sensible creature has to, because the truth is the truth, it
is what it is, whether you like it or not. The denial cannot go on. You
have to stop with your fakery of tying boxes to your head and thinking
that this makes you great. Stop making fools of yourselves, and stop
being fools, once and for all - then live, and live forever. Sigh. Invest
for once some of your time in the lies of your people, and come back to
the truth, rather than this laziness with the Torah, and this fake and
arrogant Oral Law of yours. Moshe Rabbeinu CUT STONES, get it ? Written
law, can't be changed. Why ? Because you where going to mess up whatever
you could, that's why. Oy oy oy Israel ... why does your Redemption have
to come through mountains of dead Jews again, why. Why do you make it
hard on yourselves, why are you so obstinate and prideful.

You made a mess out of the whole thing. Sit down and weep, even for
a whole year. You are not capable of writing a Torah, like the one
Moshe Rabbeinu gave. All your mess is messed up, it's a mess ! Sure
with a few good points, just enough to keep the "simple Jew" confused
with his so-called 'Lehrnen', either too afraid to stand up or simply
not thinking about anything either. ohhhhhh why why why .... why can
humanity throw satalites in space, but they pretend not to understand
fairly straightforward and even literal things about economics & the
Torah. Do you _want_ to be criminals ? Because that is how it looks like,
you _want_ to be criminals under the Torah law.

   End reply. Continuing on Usenet.

I don't see the hope anymore for this Jewish generation. The rejection
of the obvious truth has been too severe, long lasting and complete.
They just "don't seem to care", and what was the slogan of the Italian
street fascists, when you tried to reason with them ? "We don't care."
See the similarity ?

Why Jewish people, why do you always think you know better without
investing any time in it. Oh you think that every day 'lehrnen'
(learning) in Shull is investing time ? Then why didn't you discover the
obvious lies of Hillel and Rambam ? Because you "just don't care", right ?
You are there for a show. Well ok, a bit of Torah doesn't hurt, it's
interesting and entertaining, even moralizing if not great. But why
didn't you apparently get serious on it. The debate has been over
already, we are past that ? The wrong guys won the debate in that case.
Notice something ? 

No moshiach yet. ha ha
The exile grinds on, getting worse by the year now. Told you so.

Oy oy oy Jewish people, you where so sure of yourself eh, so sure that
what I am saying is wrong because ... well, no reason for it, right ? It
just felt that way. No need to investigate. No need to do your due
dilligence. You have a hard neck, that's all the proof you need. He
doesn't follow the traitor Rambam ? "Oh, must be a fool !". He didn't
read this Tractate in the Talmud yet ? "Come on, you don't listen to
someone like that !" Is that what you thought when I tried to make the
arguments I always make ? "He isn't a Jew ! Who is he to comment on OUR
books !" So sure of themselves.

Meanwhile, I have my own project to take care off, but here I am every
day caring more about YOUR Torah than my life project of law & political
- economic improvement on a fundamental level. I do it for 2 reasons:
gentiles are absolutely mindless, even 10 times more mindless than your
mindlessness. Second reason is that if I could get through to you, this
plan I have can also move forward, either through you directly or on a
side stream toward other Nation, because finally they might see your
example ...

Why am I still talking to these emindless people. Go worship your Rambam
to the bitter end, and you will see the end will be bitter. The Jewish
people now put their hopes in a Revolutionary Fascist, someone who even
has quoted Mussolini, and whose entire thing is Fascist, rude, criminal
even, and reminds of the monster Hitler. Jewish people support this !
Oy oy oy ...

They litterally had the choice between good and evil, and chose evil.

Perhaps it will indeed be all the same as in Egypt, when Moshe Rabbeinu
murdered that guard they also chose for the Pharao and did not start the
rebellion. Eventually the Redemption then came through thremendous
hardships and heavenly miracles (so we read).

Now they do the same: they choose *against* a completely sensible and
logical, common sense type of understanding of the Torah and then
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