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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder2.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> Newsgroups: comp.theory Subject: Re: The philosophy of computation reformulates existing ideas on a new basis ---SUCCINCT Date: Sat, 16 Nov 2024 22:18:56 -0600 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 44 Message-ID: <vhbqrh$fdjt$1@dont-email.me> References: <vfli1h$fj8s$1@dont-email.me> <vh5hmo$2v2hi$1@dont-email.me> <8ee04a00a23875dac3d741882bffbdcb81dd7acb@i2pn2.org> <vh5ils$2v8v9$1@dont-email.me> <9807cd8f9a43d7c9e9f13c6f113276cfd5f20b97@i2pn2.org> <vh5m5h$191h$1@news.muc.de> <vh5mh7$301h0$1@dont-email.me> <9e7d357b9e3959bb8394d9bf45e6161a7c9145aa@i2pn2.org> <vh6c68$33nek$2@dont-email.me> <0a0894cfd14377a9fcf89638c7705420507f571e@i2pn2.org> <vh8pas$3lqmu$1@dont-email.me> <463966aff896041f1ea77478554251554a6ef456@i2pn2.org> <vh93nj$3r8ig$1@dont-email.me> <9c41d73f0cda8f10434729bdbc0963a95582bd5d@i2pn2.org> <vh957l$3rg98$1@dont-email.me> <ae415d1a0f07aa76d9a0dd2ef1078ffeb9b03b32@i2pn2.org> <vh96c2$3rlks$1@dont-email.me> <20671ab52fff727d5bcad5a85db05c68774fbbc5@i2pn2.org> <vha936$1md4$1@dont-email.me> <46c9921e9ad206dc2bf178fda7b1d19f94f44829@i2pn2.org> <vhad21$2jm4$2@dont-email.me> <14e3854f191fe4b808d5efaddefa44f24b9b578a@i2pn2.org> <vhak59$47n9$1@dont-email.me> <2047b359b2cdf7863e4d49f17eee006564187ddd@i2pn2.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Sun, 17 Nov 2024 05:18:59 +0100 (CET) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="f412909ad9be764d47e6636298420ea3"; logging-data="505469"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX18VrHEgcrjY5fJQ55LCR1OX" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:KKbby9mirJJlFYAupYttwSuHRek= X-Antivirus-Status: Clean In-Reply-To: <2047b359b2cdf7863e4d49f17eee006564187ddd@i2pn2.org> X-Antivirus: Norton (VPS 241116-4, 11/16/2024), Outbound message Content-Language: en-US Bytes: 3957 On 11/16/2024 12:31 PM, joes wrote: > Am Sat, 16 Nov 2024 11:18:33 -0600 schrieb olcott: >> On 11/16/2024 10:51 AM, joes wrote: >>> Am Sat, 16 Nov 2024 09:17:21 -0600 schrieb olcott: >>>> On 11/16/2024 8:26 AM, Richard Damon wrote: >>>>> On 11/16/24 9:09 AM, olcott wrote: >>>>>> On 11/16/2024 6:36 AM, Richard Damon wrote: >>>>>>> On 11/15/24 11:17 PM, olcott wrote: >>>>>>>> On 11/15/2024 10:10 PM, Richard Damon wrote: >>>>>>>>> On 11/15/24 10:57 PM, olcott wrote: >>>>>>>>>> On 11/15/2024 9:39 PM, Richard Damon wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> On 11/15/24 10:32 PM, olcott wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> On 11/15/2024 9:18 PM, Richard Damon wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> On 11/15/24 7:34 PM, olcott wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 11/14/2024 8:49 PM, Richard Damon wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 11/14/24 9:38 PM, olcott wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 11/14/2024 2:33 PM, Richard Damon wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 11/14/24 3:28 PM, olcott wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 11/14/2024 2:22 PM, Alan Mackenzie wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> joes <noreply@example.org> wrote: > >>> Which HHH does DDD call, the one that aborts? >> This has never made any damn difference. > It absolutely does. If the inner HHH aborts, the outer doesn't need to, > because DDD halts. > >> That I have to keep telling you this seems to indicate that you are a >> liar. > You don't need to. I am talking about the inner H called by D, not the > outermost H simulating D. > That I have always been talking about the behavior of DDD emulated by any encoding of HHH at any depth of recursive emulation seems to be more than you can pay attention to. In none of these cases does any of these DDD instances return to their caller. -- Copyright 2024 Olcott "Talent hits a target no one else can hit; Genius hits a target no one else can see." Arthur Schopenhauer