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Path: ...!weretis.net!feeder9.news.weretis.net!news.quux.org!eternal-september.org!feeder2.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: FromTheRafters <FTR@nomail.afraid.org> Newsgroups: sci.math Subject: Re: Incompleteness of Cantor's enumeration of the rational numbers Date: Sun, 17 Nov 2024 11:59:17 -0500 Organization: Peripheral Visions Lines: 24 Message-ID: <vhd7d7$nt37$1@dont-email.me> References: <vg7cp8$9jka$1@dont-email.me> <vgsg04$t7fk$1@dont-email.me> <1fca3a53-1cb4-4fd2-85b6-85e9b69ca23b@att.net> <vgtpmo$153hf$6@dont-email.me> <d17f7542-986e-4897-89b4-dccaf11d5311@att.net> <vh00jj$1m6co$1@dont-email.me> <97304048-24f5-4625-82a7-d17427f2f6e3@att.net> <vh0hta$1pmql$1@dont-email.me> <65febd06-662b-4fa4-9aa8-f7353a79a110@att.net> <vh2k9p$29cql$1@dont-email.me> <157a949d-6c19-4693-8cee-9e067268ae45@att.net> <vh35nd$2d81g$1@dont-email.me> <cb0c9917-09a9-45f0-8fe9-cd059fa82dde@att.net> <vh4itg$2o3vu$1@dont-email.me> <8165b44b-1ba5-429d-8317-0b043b214b53@att.net> <vh76bi$3bnde$1@dont-email.me> <d90452a5-965b-443f-9146-96cdf9b3906c@att.net> <vh8ft0$3jqb5$3@dont-email.me> <vh8g5e$3juug$1@dont-email.me> <vh8otd$3lhlt$2@dont-email.me> <vhb1is$6hbv$2@dont-email.me> <vhb1mu$6hbv$4@dont-email.me> <vhb32t$7ese$1@dont-email.me> <vhch7n$hge9$2@dont-email.me> <vhcieh$jjk5$1@dont-email.me> <vhcjg5$hdd4$3@dont-email.me> <vhckkh$k32g$1@dont-email.me> <vhcp0r$hge9$6@dont-email.me> Reply-To: erratic.howard@gmail.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Sun, 17 Nov 2024 17:59:20 +0100 (CET) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="8054ebeaf731c0f3b5f585a7036e039a"; logging-data="783463"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX18s0xCs9PfgehvVmQnBOSFc55pjQFdVKV4=" Cancel-Lock: sha1:5J8yBWg3MQPIVAnpQ8SSgOki5n0= X-ICQ: 1701145376 X-Newsreader: MesNews/1.08.06.00-gb Bytes: 2886 WM pretended : > On 17.11.2024 12:38, FromTheRafters wrote: >> WM presented the following explanation : >>> On 17.11.2024 12:01, FromTheRafters wrote: >>>> WM was thinking very hard : >>>>> On 16.11.2024 22:33, Moebius wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> For example "aleph_0 - aleph_0" is not defined. >>>>> >>>>> Small wonder. ℵo means only infinitely many: |ℕ|, |ℚ|, and many others. >>>>> |ℕ|-|ℕ| however is defined. >>>> >>>> No, it is not. >>> >>> If sets are invariable then ℕ \ ℕ is empty. >>> If |ℕ| concerns only the elements of ℕ, then |ℕ|-|ℕ|= 0. >> >> So, you're saying that if I take aleph_zero natural numbers and I remove >> the aleph_zero odd numbers from consideration in a new set, I will have a >> new emptyset instead of E? > > Try to understand. "aleph_0 - aleph_0" is not defined. Try to understand that |N| equals aleph_zero.