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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder2.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Pancho <Pancho.Jones@proton.me> Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.misc Subject: Re: What programs do you make sure are installed on a new Linux Date: Sun, 17 Nov 2024 17:54:32 +0000 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 25 Message-ID: <vhdako$njm8$1@dont-email.me> References: <slrnv8npnn.bsh9.candycanearter07@candydeb.host.invalid> <sGrAJE.11yAF@yahoo.com> <vh68a8$pb6$2@reader1.panix.com> <vh8sbb$3m7vt$1@dont-email.me> <8db593ab-0793-2b31-ebc3-922a5d2fc241@example.net> <vhaavs$298a$1@dont-email.me> <d3b202fd-2dd2-c9ef-1d2a-579409defe83@example.net> <vhcus9$lu8r$1@dont-email.me> <vhd1gi$lvfu$3@dont-email.me> <Ryp_O.14390$V2ha.7339@fx18.iad> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Sun, 17 Nov 2024 18:54:36 +0100 (CET) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="7b0a172c36ea7ee5cab7991a1bf71da3"; logging-data="773832"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1/+KFf/qgVGNWnNl4VpNgoeSfntItUdSLk=" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:joozGlL2rTVVBJ2UKm3+bXbNYy0= Content-Language: en-GB In-Reply-To: <Ryp_O.14390$V2ha.7339@fx18.iad> Bytes: 2302 On 11/17/24 17:17, Charlie Gibbs wrote: > On 2024-11-17, Pancho <Pancho.Jones@proton.me> wrote: > >> On 11/17/24 14:33, Phillip Frabott wrote: >> >>> I am a headless C developer (Sometimes C++). > > Is that like Roland the headless Thompson gunner? :-) > (Thank you, Warren Zevon.) > >> That is bizarre. It is much easier to code, debug, test in a good >> graphical IDE, even if you are developing console apps. > > Horses for courses. Never underestimate the value of a > few printf()s sprinkled here and there (or log file writes > if you're really headless). I'm still a fan of makefiles. > Not really, people who use IDE's still use loggers. People who use IDEs, use build automation scripts: Gradle, Mavern. It is rude to force people to use a specific IDE, so some kind of IDE independent (cross compatible) project definition build script is needed. Caveat: I don't really remember make.