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From: olcott <polcott333@gmail.com>
Newsgroups: comp.theory,comp.ai.philosophy
Subject: Re: HHH(DDD) computes the mapping from its input to HHH emulating
 itself emulating DDD --- anyone that says otherwise is a liar
Date: Sun, 17 Nov 2024 19:46:26 -0600
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On 11/17/2024 4:04 PM, Richard Damon wrote:
> On 11/17/24 4:30 PM, olcott wrote:
>> On 11/17/2024 2:51 PM, Richard Damon wrote:
>>> On 11/17/24 1:36 PM, olcott wrote:
>>>> void DDD()
>>>> {
>>>>    HHH(DDD);
>>>>    return;
>>>> }
>>>>
>>>> _DDD()
>>>> [00002172] 55         push ebp      ; housekeeping
>>>> [00002173] 8bec       mov ebp,esp   ; housekeeping
>>>> [00002175] 6872210000 push 00002172 ; push DDD
>>>> [0000217a] e853f4ffff call 000015d2 ; call HHH(DDD)
>>>> [0000217f] 83c404     add esp,+04
>>>> [00002182] 5d         pop ebp
>>>> [00002183] c3         ret
>>>> Size in bytes:(0018) [00002183]
>>>>
>>>> DDD emulated by any encoding of HHH that emulates N
>>>> to infinity number of steps of DDD cannot possibly
>>>> reach its "return" instruction final halt state.
>>>>
>>>> This applies to every DDD emulated by any HHH no
>>>> matter the recursive depth of emulation. Thus it is
>>>> a verified fact that the input to HHH never halts.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> I will also add, that since you have dropped your requirements on HHH 
>>> (or are seeming to try to divorse yourself from previous assumptions) 
>>> there are MANY HHH that can complete the emulation, they just fail to 
>>> be "pure functions".
>>>
>>
>> The damned liar despicably dishonest attempt to get away
>> with changing the subject away from DDD reaching its final
>> halt state.
>>
> 
> Which is just what YOU are doing, as "Halting" and what a "Program" is 
> are DEFINED, and you can't change it.
> 

YET ANOTHER STUPID LIE.
A SMART LIAR WOULD NEVER SAY THAT I MEANT
PROGRAM WHEN I ALWAYS SPECIFIED A C FUNCTION.

-- 
Copyright 2024 Olcott "Talent hits a target no one else can hit; Genius
hits a target no one else can see." Arthur Schopenhauer