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Path: ...!weretis.net!feeder8.news.weretis.net!newsfeed.xs3.de!nntp-feed.chiark.greenend.org.uk!ewrotcd!news.eyrie.org!beagle.ediacara.org!.POSTED.beagle.ediacara.org!not-for-mail From: RonO <rokimoto557@gmail.com> Newsgroups: talk.origins Subject: Re: politics Date: Mon, 18 Nov 2024 10:41:47 -0600 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 41 Sender: to%beagle.ediacara.org Approved: moderator@beagle.ediacara.org Message-ID: <vhfqob$1b542$1@dont-email.me> References: <ff8316a0-d409-4154-ba53-dd736d5c28e9@gmail.com> <1r37r45.1t3678e1i1jl4vN%nospam@de-ster.demon.nl> <48e4faae-299e-4798-91d0-5c57815b7155@gmail.com> Reply-To: rokimoto557@gmail.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Info: beagle.ediacara.org; posting-host="beagle.ediacara.org:3.132.105.89"; logging-data="8896"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@beagle.ediacara.org" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird To: talk-origins@moderators.isc.org Cancel-Lock: sha1:KDUMyYCOIfoWoKvgJu2f1OeH/jQ= Return-Path: <news@eternal-september.org> X-Original-To: talk-origins@ediacara.org Delivered-To: talk-origins@ediacara.org id 10D9C229782; Mon, 18 Nov 2024 11:41:55 -0500 (EST) by beagle.ediacara.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DCE88229765 for <talk-origins@ediacara.org>; Mon, 18 Nov 2024 11:41:52 -0500 (EST) id EEF7F5DF9C; Mon, 18 Nov 2024 16:41:51 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: talk-origins@moderators.isc.org by mod-relay-1.kamens.us (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CBFC75DF9B for <talk-origins@moderators.isc.org>; Mon, 18 Nov 2024 16:41:51 +0000 (UTC) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature ECDSA (P-256) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.eternal-september.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3CB2E5F89A for <talk-origins@moderators.isc.org>; Mon, 18 Nov 2024 16:41:49 +0000 (UTC) Authentication-Results: name/3CB2E5F89A; dmarc=fail (p=none dis=none) header.from=gmail.com id 9BC54DC01A9; Mon, 18 Nov 2024 17:41:48 +0100 (CET) X-Injection-Date: Mon, 18 Nov 2024 17:41:48 +0100 (CET) Content-Language: en-US X-Auth-Sender: U2FsdGVkX1/EGgvrWnjayUFSRREHb0UxQFnGm9XYmas= In-Reply-To: <48e4faae-299e-4798-91d0-5c57815b7155@gmail.com> FREEMAIL_FORGED_REPLYTO,FREEMAIL_REPLYTO_END_DIGIT, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,NML_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED, RCVD_IN_VALIDITY_CERTIFIED_BLOCKED,RCVD_IN_VALIDITY_RPBL_BLOCKED, SPF_HELO_NONE,SPF_PASS,URIBL_BLOCKED,USER_IN_WELCOMELIST, USER_IN_WHITELIST autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.6 smtp.eternal-september.org Bytes: 4532 On 11/18/2024 9:48 AM, erik simpson wrote: > On 11/18/24 1:21 AM, J. J. Lodder wrote: >> erik simpson <eastside.erik@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> I'd like to propose a moratorium on political posts, as they are >>> off-topic. I see general agreement on the unsatisfactory state of >>> affairs here in the US, but for now there's little anybody can do >>> about it. >> >> Unsatisfactory politics may have scientific consequences, >> as seen before WWII. >> It looks like the USA is getting ready to give back >> some of 'Hitler's present'. >> >> European universities will no doubt be willing to accomodate >> outstanding scientific refugies. >> The fact that some of their lecturing is in English these days >> will make it easier, >> >> Jan >> > As you see, we are pretty messed up, but then the whole world is pretty > messed up. There are encouraging signs here and there, so let's hope > for the best. > Encouraging signs? Nazis marched in Ohio, the Klan and Nazis think that they have their man in the White House. Trump has just confirmed that he plans to declare a national emergency that would allow the military to assist in his mass deportations. There are an estimated 11 million undocumented immigrants in the US. As crazy as it may seem Trump seems to be planning Nationwide concentration camps to collect these people for deportation. The claim is that 56% of those polled support deportation. My guess is that a lot of them do not understand that they are supporting. It sounds like bad fiction, but that is what our nation has come to. Trump seems to have allowed people to express their darker side. It isn't the side that made this country great. https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/trump-confirms-plan-declare-national-emergency-military-mass/story?id=115963448 Ron Okimoto