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From: William Hyde <wthyde1953@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: politics
Date: Mon, 18 Nov 2024 17:15:44 -0500
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J. J. Lodder wrote:
> Kestrel Clayton <richZIG.e.clayZIGton@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> On 18-Nov-24 12:11, J. J. Lodder wrote:
>>> Bob Casanova <nospam@buzz.off> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Mon, 18 Nov 2024 07:48:38 -0800, the following appeared
>>>> in talk.origins, posted by erik simpson
>>>> <eastside.erik@gmail.com>:
>>>>
>>>>> On 11/18/24 1:21 AM, J. J. Lodder wrote:
>>>>>> erik simpson <eastside.erik@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'd like to propose a moratorium on political posts, as they are
>>>>>>> off-topic.  I see general agreement on the unsatisfactory state of
>>>>>>> affairs here in the US, but for now there's little anybody can do
>>>>>>> about it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Unsatisfactory politics may have scientific consequences,
>>>>>> as seen before WWII.
>>>>>> It looks like the USA is getting ready to give back
>>>>>> some of 'Hitler's present'.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> European universities will no doubt be willing to accomodate
>>>>>> outstanding scientific refugies.
>>>>>> The fact that some of their lecturing is in English these days
>>>>>> will make it easier,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Jan
>>>>>>
>>>>> As you see, we are pretty messed up, but then the whole world is pretty
>>>>> messed up.  There are encouraging signs here and there, so let's hope
>>>>> for the best.
>>>>>
>>>> A-a-a-a-nd so much for the moratorium.
>>>
>>> Says you. Your good old USA, with its creationism/ID
>>> is -the- source for mixing politics into science,
>>
>> Yeah, the issues aren't really separable. Modern creationism didn't
>> evolve in a vacuum; it has always been tied to right-wing politics. And
>> the folks who will be taking charge of the US in January are
>> science-denying fruitcakes of every possible stripe.
> 
> And like in Nazi Germany and Stalinist Russia the movement
> will no doubt be reinforced by ordinary careerism.
> Driving out good scientsts by throwing accusations at them
> of not being politically correct by the standards of the day
> makes room for second rate nobodies wanting jobs.

It's worked in the Church for two thousand years, after all.


William Hyde