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Subject: Re: [OT] What's next for Kamala Harris?
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On 11/18/2024 9:32 PM, suzeeq wrote:
> On 11/18/2024 6:24 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>> On Nov 18, 2024 at 5:45:49 PM PST, "suzeeq" <suzeeq@imbris.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On 11/18/2024 11:20 AM, Adam H. Kerman wrote:
>>>>   BTR1701  <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
>>>>>   On Nov 18, 2024 at 11:00:03 AM PST, ""Adam H. Kerman"" 
>>>>> <ahk@chinet.com>
>>>>>   wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>   BTR1701  <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>   On Nov 18, 2024 at 8:31:21 AM PST, "moviePig" 
>>>>>>> <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>     On 11/18/2024 11:22 AM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>>>>>>>      On Nov 18, 2024 at 1:19:16 AM PST, "shawn"
>>>>>   <nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com>
>>>>>>>>>      wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>      On Sun, 17 Nov 2024 21:29:19 -0800, The Horny Goat 
>>>>>>>>>> <lcraver@home.ca>
>>>>>>>>>>      wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>      On Fri, 15 Nov 2024 20:11:31 -0500, shawn
>>>>>>>>>>>      <nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>      The only calling Trump Hitler was J.D. Vance. So that 
>>>>>>>>>>>> should have
>>>>>>>>>>>>      turned off the Republicans if they really didn't want 
>>>>>>>>>>>> someone calling
>>>>>>>>>>>>      Trump Hitler or at least much like Hitler.
>>>>>>>>>>>      Where did he call him Hitler? And don't tell me Vance's 
>>>>>>>>>>> book - I
>>>>>>>>>>>      finished it on the weekend and enjoyed it but more for 
>>>>>>>>>>> raising my
>>>>>>>>>>>      knowledge of poverty in America than for the politics.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> https://www.cnn.com/2024/07/15/politics/kfile-jd-vance-comments- 
>>>>> trump/index.html
>>>>>>>>>>      “I go back and forth between thinking Trump is a 
>>>>>>>>>> cynical asshole like
>>>>>>>>>>      Nixon who wouldn’t be that bad (and might even prove 
>>>>>>>>>> useful) or that
>>>>>>>>>>      he’s America’s Hitler,” Vance wrote in a message to a
>>>>>   friend in 2016.
>>>>>>>>>>      “How’s that for discouraging?”
>>>>>>>>>>      Just one of the articles mentioning Vance's referring to 
>>>>>>>>>> Trump as
>>>>>>>>>>      being like Hitler. Not that Vance would admit to it now, 
>>>>>>>>>> but it is in
>>>>>>>>>>      the public record that he did at one time think that way.
>>>>>>>>>      Yeah, and Kamala called Joe a racist bigot during the Dem 
>>>>>>>>> primary
>>>>>   debates,
>>>>>>>>>      then she sang his praises once he nominated her VP.
>>>>>>>>>      Politics.
>>>>>>>>     Seems "politics" blurs memory. She actually said Joe was 
>>>>>>>> *not* a racist.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>   LOL! She said, "I do not believe you are a racist", then 
>>>>>>> proceeded to accuse
>>>>>>>   him of racist actions. She condemned him for working with 
>>>>>>> segregationists in
>>>>>>>   the Senate, including choosing one of them to be his life-long 
>>>>>>> mentor, and
>>>>>>>   also blasted him for opposing mandatory busing, which she 
>>>>>>> deemed to be a
>>>>>>>   racist position on the issue.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>   You're all about detecting the unspoken wink-and-nod when it 
>>>>>>> comes to Trump
>>>>>>>   allegedly inciting an insurrection despite actually telling the 
>>>>>>> crowd to
>>>>>>>   protest peacefully, but your ability to detect the same when it 
>>>>>>> comes to a
>>>>>>>   Democrat seems conveniently lacking.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>   Stop it. Did the Secret Service agent lie that he refused 
>>>>>> Trump's demand
>>>>>>   to be taken to the Capitol? Trump intended to lead the crowd in.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>   Repeating myself: Trump's speech was TOO LATE.
>>>>>
>>>>>   Repeating myself: Trump told them to protest peacefully BEFORE 
>>>>> the crowd
>>>>> even
>>>>>   left the Ellipse, before the marched to the Capitol.
>>>>   What about all those people who went directly to the Capitol with ill
>>>>   intent? What about all the people who could have been diverted from
>>>>   heading toward Washington if Trump explicitly told them to turn back
>>>>   several hours earlier?
>>> And there was a bunch of people who weren't even at his speech at the
>>> Ellipse who went to the Capitol first, and led the charge to get in.
>>> Most were Proud Boys.
>>
>> Well, if they weren't at the Ellipse, then Trump can't possibly be 
>> liable for
>> 'inciting' them.
>>
> But members of his team met with them the night before to finalize the 
> plan. Who do you think sent that team?

'Spontaneous corruption'...