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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder2.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> Newsgroups: comp.lang.c Subject: Re: else ladders practice Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2024 06:37:31 +0100 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 19 Message-ID: <vhh86t$1mtjb$1@dont-email.me> References: <3deb64c5b0ee344acd9fbaea1002baf7302c1e8f@i2pn2.org> <vg0t3j$2ruor$1@dont-email.me> <78eabb4054783e30968ae5ffafd6b4ff2e5a5f17@i2pn2.org> <vg2g37$37mh3$1@dont-email.me> <6724CFD2.4030607@grunge.pl> <vg2llt$38ons$1@dont-email.me> <2491a699388b5891a49ef960e1ad8bb689fdc2ed@i2pn2.org> <b681ee05856e165c26a5c29bf42a8d9d53843d6d@i2pn2.org> <vg2ttn$3a4lk$1@dont-email.me> <vg33gs$3b8n5$1@dont-email.me> <vg358c$3bk7t$1@dont-email.me> <vg37nr$3bo0c$1@dont-email.me> <vg3b98$3cc8q$1@dont-email.me> <vg5351$3pada$1@dont-email.me> <vg62vg$3uv02$1@dont-email.me> <vg8a84$euka$1@dont-email.me> <vg8koq$gpsg$1@dont-email.me> <vgat50$112jp$1@dont-email.me> <vgb8if$13ioj$1@dont-email.me> <vgbhkt$155v2$1@dont-email.me> <vgn0vl$3kr82$1@dont-email.me> <vgnfnd$3nmui$1@dont-email.me> <vgpcdv$7jqv$1@dont-email.me> <vgqiii$edif$1@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2024 06:37:34 +0100 (CET) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="ece78514e4f65c6792a686a8d9751b44"; logging-data="1799787"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1/+BNnpULaYXWZrvipwayQk" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.8.0 Cancel-Lock: sha1:1rVghoTql6XJoRzEeHYnMRGi+qc= X-Enigmail-Draft-Status: N1110 In-Reply-To: <vgqiii$edif$1@dont-email.me> Bytes: 2690 On 10.11.2024 16:13, David Brown wrote: >> [...] > > My preferences are very much weighted towards correctness, not > efficiency. That includes /knowing/ that things are correct, not just > passing some tests. [...] I agree with you. But given what you write I'm also sure you know what's achievable in theory, what's an avid wish, and what's really possible. Yet there's also projects that don't seem to care, where speedy delivery is the primary goal. Guaranteeing formal correctness had never been an issue in the industry contexts I worked in, and I was always glad when I had a good test environment, with a good test coverage, and continuous refinement of tests. Informal documentation, factual checks of the arguments, and actual tests was what kept the quality of our project deliveries at a high level. Janis