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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder2.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> Newsgroups: sci.electronics.design Subject: Re: Final final 1kHz oscillator Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2024 23:46:34 +1100 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 703 Message-ID: <vhi1bd$1r73e$1@dont-email.me> References: <vglt5t$30a3$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com> <t5fajjdteskfftvkf84iqsp2vc4b9ta5kj@4ax.com> <vh57l4$2knt$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com> <n7iijjdeqecl0kmub0bq5in0dbm60m7qam@4ax.com> <vhee22$10q2$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2024 13:46:39 +0100 (CET) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="bd11af1bd9ac16469edf2b306bb442ad"; logging-data="1940590"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX19/lhsV+aOK5xfxkNOmENxUaOCCcfv7P7o=" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:WosUIaBqs1bpibXUHvmQ4MA8UgA= X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-Antivirus: Norton (VPS 241119-0, 19/11/2024), Outbound message In-Reply-To: <vhee22$10q2$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com> Content-Language: en-US Bytes: 20744 On 18/11/2024 2:58 pm, Edward Rawde wrote: > "JM" <sunaecoNoChoppedPork@gmail.com> wrote in message news:n7iijjdeqecl0kmub0bq5in0dbm60m7qam@4ax.com... >> On Thu, 14 Nov 2024 11:14:28 -0500, "Edward Rawde" >> <invalid@invalid.invalid> wrote: >> >>> "JM" <sunaecoNoChoppedPork@gmail.com> wrote in message news:t5fajjdteskfftvkf84iqsp2vc4b9ta5kj@4ax.com... >>>> On Fri, 8 Nov 2024 15:43:41 -0500, "Edward Rawde" >>>> <invalid@invalid.invalid> wrote: Here's another variation. This one take's John May's advice and spreads the phase shift oscillator over three op amps, all operating with the non-inverting input grounded. U1 now has only one 3.3pF frequency compensation capacitor - the simulation started slowing down to picoseconds per second from time to time, and this made it happen less often. The two compensation capacitor scheme would probably be fine in real life. The circuit takes a long time to settle down to stable operation - about 5 seconds,and that after I cut the integrating capacitor from 6.8uF to 680nF and put in D4 to minimise the initial overshoot on the FET gate drive - and the performance isn't wonderful. The second and third harmonics are about 75dB below the fundamental and 65dB down respectively. I'll play about a bit more but the main charm of the circuit is that it is easy to explain what each bit does. 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