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From: Athel Cornish-Bowden <me@yahoo.com>
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Subject: Re: politics
Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2024 19:21:40 +0100
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On 2024-11-19 15:46:10 +0000, *Hemidactylus* said:

> jillery <69jpil69@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Mon, 18 Nov 2024 19:39:24 +0100, Athel Cornish-Bowden
>> <me@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> On 2024-11-18 17:24:40 +0000, *Hemidactylus* said:
>>> 
>>>> Bob Casanova <nospam@buzz.off> wrote:
>>>>> On Mon, 18 Nov 2024 07:48:38 -0800, the following appeared
>>>>> in talk.origins, posted by erik simpson
>>>>> <eastside.erik@gmail.com>:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 11/18/24 1:21 AM, J. J. Lodder wrote:
>>>>>>> erik simpson <eastside.erik@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I'd like to propose a moratorium on political posts, as they are
>>>>>>>> off-topic.  I see general agreement on the unsatisfactory state of
>>>>>>>> affairs here in the US, but for now there's little anybody can do about it.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Unsatisfactory politics may have scientific consequences,
>>>>>>> as seen before WWII.
>>>>>>> It looks like the USA is getting ready to give back
>>>>>>> some of 'Hitler's present'.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> European universities will no doubt be willing to accomodate
>>>>>>> outstanding scientific refugies.
>>>>>>> The fact that some of their lecturing is in English these days
>>>>>>> will make it easier,
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Jan
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>> As you see, we are pretty messed up, but then the whole world is pretty
>>>>>> messed up.  There are encouraging signs here and there, so let's hope
>>>>>> for the best.
>>>>>> 
>>>>> A-a-a-a-nd so much for the moratorium.
>>>>> 
>>>> I don’t see a moratorium as workable. There are somewhat topical political
>>>> developments such as RFK Jr touted as health secretary and would influence
>>>> policy over response to evolving infectious agents.
>>>> 
>>>> Plus people (eg- Martin Harran and JJ Lodder) are going to blow steam as
>>>> they see us nose dive into the Trumpian sewer from afar as NATO fragments
>>>> while Putin ascends upon their doorsteps.
>>> 
>>> There is no need for NATO to fragment. Other than the USA, and perhaps
>>> Turkey, it's holding together pretty well.
>> 
>> 
>> <cough>  Hungary  <cough>
>> 
> Good point.

OK, I accept that. I went to a meeting in Badacsony and was surprised 
to learn that the organizer, a distinguished scientist that I admire, 
was a supporter of Orbán. However, that was in 2013; maybe he's changed 
his views since. Another Hungarian scientist that I know is very 
conservative and anti-communist in her opinions. However, I haven't 
seen her since 1999, and I don't know what she thinks of Orbán. On the 
other hand, the late Tamás Keleti and his wife were possibly the last 
sincere communists left in Hungary.


-- 
Athel -- French and British, living in Marseilles for 37 years; mainly 
in England until 1987.