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From: Catrike Ryder <Soloman@old.bikers.org>
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Subject: Re: BOLO pervert cyclist
Date: Mon, 09 Sep 2024 06:14:33 -0400
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On Sun, 08 Sep 2024 20:25:38 -0700, Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com>
wrote:

>On Sun, 08 Sep 2024 17:30:25 -0400, Catrike Ryder
><Soloman@old.bikers.org> wrote:
>
>>+1 ..and why does anyone care what kind of bikes other people buy?
>
>-1.  I like to see what other people buy and use so I can learn from
>their experiences (and mistakes).  Some people can look at a catalog,
>video or advertisement and instantly know that what they're looking at
>is perfect for them.  I can't do that.  A test ride is probably best,
>but watching what others do with the bicycle is a good 2nd best
>evaluation method.  If I'm not currently in the market for a new
>bicycle, then the education I get in watching what other people buy is
>valuable.
>
>There are also people who won't buy anything unless they know someone
>who already owns one.  I'm one of those people.  Buying version 1.0
>has usually been a loser for me.  I bought my (used) Subaru mostly
>because I knew 5 people locally who own one and who could give me
>unbiased advice on its merits and potential problems.  I test drove 4
>of the cars.  However, I can't test drive everything, so I rely on the
>opinions of others.  It's like my motto "Learn by Destroying" except
>it's someone else that destroys their latest purchase.
>
>You might not think it acceptable to take someone else's advice or
>accept their opinions.  I do the opposite.  I ask for advice, solicit
>people's opinion, and learn from them.  I read the buyer reviews on
>web sites.  I watch YouTube videos demonstrating how the product is
>used.  I read alarmist stories about how my latest purchase might be
>short cut to my damnation.  This hasn't been 100% successful, but it's
>good enough for my purposes and certainly better purchasing cars or
>bicycles with only the dealer or vendors sales pitch.

(1) You care about what other people buy, but I doubt that you berate
them or try to talk them out of it.

(2) I suspect that you solicit the advice (so do I) and you seek out
opinions of people who you have detirmined to be qualified.

That's very different from what I intended with that question. My
mistake. I should have been clearer.

--
C'est bon
Soloman