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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder2.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!epsilon3.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: "Jay E. Morris" <morrisj@epsilon3.comcon> Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.written Subject: Re: ongoing infrastructure changes with AI in the USA Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2024 17:01:31 -0600 Organization: very little if any Lines: 34 Message-ID: <vhj5cb$22b4j$1@epsilon3.eternal-september.org> References: <vh8avh$3ir9b$2@dont-email.me> <vhg9i4$1ae4c$2@epsilon3.eternal-september.org> <3tepjj96srch7vbilqi9f2d6uo6tvdgd2u@4ax.com> <vhih8r$1uic7$1@dont-email.me> <vhima8$t51$1@usenet.csail.mit.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2024 00:01:32 +0100 (CET) Injection-Info: epsilon3.eternal-september.org; posting-host="55bf8ae50bc4db3cca1844af24e86439"; logging-data="2174099"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1/SL/ldQyQFwzAqaNdJtCMJhR8Np6HNo0M=" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:+M0xjOFVVoevBrTz9+3W+IFqApo= Content-Language: en-US In-Reply-To: <vhima8$t51$1@usenet.csail.mit.edu> X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-Antivirus: AVG (VPS 241119-4, 11/19/2024), Outbound message Bytes: 2939 On 11/19/2024 12:44 PM, Garrett Wollman wrote: > In article <vhih8r$1uic7$1@dont-email.me>, > Cryptoengineer <petertrei@gmail.com> wrote: >> On 11/19/2024 11:25 AM, Paul S Person wrote: >>> I don't suppose there is an easy way to relate a given cell phone >>> number to the carrier and so to the @ address? >> >> No, there isn't. US phone numbers have been movable between carriers >> for decades. I did it myself. > > There is a national database -- obviously, because the incoming calls > have to get routed to the right carrier. I seem to have misplaced the > name of this database; it's operated under an FCC contract by an > organization called the Number Portability Administration Center. > Every phone call and SMS message requires a lookup in this database. > > Originally, calls would be routed on the basis of the local exchange > carrier to which the NPA-NXX was assigned, and then numbers which had > been "ported out" would be kicked back to the originating carrier with > a "not our number" message to force a database lookup. These days, > it makes sense to just do the database dip unconditionally. (There's > caching in the carrier networks to minimize their database access > charges.) > > Whether there's any way for normal people to get access to this > information I don't know. > > -GAWollman > As I said in the other message, https://www.whitepages.com/ and the reverse number lookup did give my carrier. I have not moved carriers in over 20 years though so someone who has would have to verify that it still gives the right carrier.