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Path: ...!weretis.net!feeder9.news.weretis.net!usenet.blueworldhosting.com!diablo1.usenet.blueworldhosting.com!nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: "Edward Rawde" <invalid@invalid.invalid> Newsgroups: sci.electronics.design Subject: Re: Final final 1kHz oscillator Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2024 20:59:04 -0500 Organization: BWH Usenet Archive (https://usenet.blueworldhosting.com) Lines: 491 Message-ID: <vhjfp8$2q8t$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com> References: <vglt5t$30a3$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com> <t5fajjdteskfftvkf84iqsp2vc4b9ta5kj@4ax.com> <vh57l4$2knt$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com> <n7iijjdeqecl0kmub0bq5in0dbm60m7qam@4ax.com> <vhee22$10q2$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com> <vhibce$1t7v2$1@dont-email.me> Injection-Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2024 01:59:04 -0000 (UTC) Injection-Info: nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com; logging-data="92445"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@blueworldhosting.com" Cancel-Lock: sha1:pJJLQio0M4nhpnMmxtV0rYws6+s= sha256:UbslCCaiNBn+j5xADBmcA85IAwwAftiGwcDN9imtbEY= sha1:a91pIe1g/cL2j9P4rkOP9nmRx8M= sha256:XTB/MlsFnCyuPDRuuyQBhDEfnfI2vimEcLBEV58Oekc= X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.6157 X-RFC2646: Format=Flowed; Response X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5931 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 Bytes: 14688 "Bill Sloman" <bill.sloman@ieee.org> wrote in message news:vhibce$1t7v2$1@dont-email.me... > On 18/11/2024 2:58 pm, Edward Rawde wrote: >> "JM" <sunaecoNoChoppedPork@gmail.com> wrote in message news:n7iijjdeqecl0kmub0bq5in0dbm60m7qam@4ax.com... >>> On Thu, 14 Nov 2024 11:14:28 -0500, "Edward Rawde" >>> <invalid@invalid.invalid> wrote: >>> >>>> "JM" <sunaecoNoChoppedPork@gmail.com> wrote in message news:t5fajjdteskfftvkf84iqsp2vc4b9ta5kj@4ax.com... >>>>> On Fri, 8 Nov 2024 15:43:41 -0500, "Edward Rawde" >>>>> <invalid@invalid.invalid> wrote: > > I've taken John May seriously, and reworked my phase shift oscillator to use three op amps, all with their non-inverting inputs > tied to ground. > > The results aren't all that impressive, the lower harmonics are about 65dB below the fundamental. Start-up is slow - it takes > about five seconds of simulation before the circuit settles down into steady state operation, and that after I dropped the > integrating capacitor from 6.8uF to 680nF. The nice thing about the circuit is that I can explain what each bit is doing. I can > see a few tweaks that might be worth trying. > The simulation died after 3 seconds, as if insufficient gain to sustain oscillation. You seem to have a lot of components. Are you sure you really need all those ferrites? Here's my really definitely final final offering. A comfortable 90dB down at 2kHz and > 100 dB elsewhere. Also looks clean either side of 1kHz. Whether or not this has anything to do with reality I do not know. The diode stabilizer string will be temperature dependent, requiring readjustment of R4 and a total of three adjustments are needed. Only three op amps (two packages) are needed. 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