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Path: ...!weretis.net!feeder9.news.weretis.net!news.quux.org!eternal-september.org!feeder2.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> Newsgroups: sci.electronics.design Subject: Re: Final final 1kHz oscillator Date: Thu, 21 Nov 2024 01:00:57 +1100 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 42 Message-ID: <vhkq30$46ha$2@dont-email.me> References: <vglt5t$30a3$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com> <t5fajjdteskfftvkf84iqsp2vc4b9ta5kj@4ax.com> <vh57l4$2knt$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com> <n7iijjdeqecl0kmub0bq5in0dbm60m7qam@4ax.com> <vhee22$10q2$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com> <vhibce$1t7v2$1@dont-email.me> <vhjfp8$2q8t$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com> <vhjhin$24eu4$2@dont-email.me> <vhjj2v$24eu4$3@dont-email.me> <vhjji9$2ro5$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2024 15:01:05 +0100 (CET) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="7e9b0084894d777dbc73bfa94ccaab01"; logging-data="137770"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX19Fpoaim2LXGGmIt3sEZLoFCsGjgwESWbk=" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:M6iEClLmreggjckVwWtVyzUWpuk= X-Antivirus: Norton (VPS 241120-2, 20/11/2024), Outbound message Content-Language: en-US X-Antivirus-Status: Clean In-Reply-To: <vhjji9$2ro5$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com> Bytes: 3555 On 20/11/2024 2:03 pm, Edward Rawde wrote: > "Bill Sloman" <bill.sloman@ieee.org> wrote in message news:vhjj2v$24eu4$3@dont-email.me... >> On 20/11/2024 1:29 pm, Bill Sloman wrote: >>> On 20/11/2024 12:59 pm, Edward Rawde wrote: >>>> "Bill Sloman" <bill.sloman@ieee.org> wrote in message news:vhibce$1t7v2$1@dont-email.me... >>>>> On 18/11/2024 2:58 pm, Edward Rawde wrote: >>>>>> "JM" <sunaecoNoChoppedPork@gmail.com> wrote in message news:n7iijjdeqecl0kmub0bq5in0dbm60m7qam@4ax.com... >>>>>>> On Thu, 14 Nov 2024 11:14:28 -0500, "Edward Rawde" >>>>>>> <invalid@invalid.invalid> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> "JM" <sunaecoNoChoppedPork@gmail.com> wrote in message news:t5fajjdteskfftvkf84iqsp2vc4b9ta5kj@4ax.com... >>>>>>>>> On Fri, 8 Nov 2024 15:43:41 -0500, "Edward Rawde" >>>>>>>>> <invalid@invalid.invalid> wrote: <snip> >> I've no idea why you are using the LT1994. The circuit doesn't have a common mode problem, so why are you using an op amp designed >> to deal with one? >> >> This is sci.electronics.design not sci.electronics.incremental-development. >> >> And the six diode "stabiliser string" is nuts. If you need a 3.6V reference voltage there are lots of ways to do it with more >> precision and better temperature stability. > > In that case please show a circuit with better performance. > It may be that some of the circuits JM posted can do better but if so then why are you using a circuit with so many components? > My circuit has far fewer components than yours. But you don't seem to be able to tell us what they do. I think I've found my conceptual problem with my circuit. Tweaking the gain around the three-amplifier ring tweaks both amplitude and frequency - with more gain a lower frequency signal can still propagate around the ring. I've got to find a mechanism that will separate amplitude from frequency. My copy of Williams and Taylor on electronic filter design may get perused again. __ Bill Sloman, Sydney