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Path: ...!weretis.net!feeder9.news.weretis.net!news.quux.org!eternal-september.org!feeder2.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Aether Regained <AetherRegaind@somewhere.in.the.aether> Newsgroups: sci.physics.relativity Subject: Re: Wikipedia crackpottey Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2024 19:25:00 +0000 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 67 Message-ID: <vhlcol$82qs$1@dont-email.me> References: <vh1rcb$24rbv$1@dont-email.me> <68761162bb526b2be5be1ce08c49bd8e@www.novabbs.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2024 20:19:50 +0100 (CET) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="f5c741df737417ae0f90c2a0bbfcd300"; logging-data="265052"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1+JLxzV/hNjdByVBgBOeJKEezglaNqNL0w=" Cancel-Lock: sha1:9wGvdLg/xEQu89DAmOymf90n914= Content-Language: en-US In-Reply-To: <68761162bb526b2be5be1ce08c49bd8e@www.novabbs.com> Bytes: 3442 ProkaryoticCaspaseHomolog:> On Wed, 13 Nov 2024 9:26:34 +0000, Athel Cornish-Bowden wrote: > >> You may all be interested in an article at >> >> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Problems_with_Einstein%27s_general_theory_of_relativity >> >> >> >> that presents some of the ideas we hear from the crackpots here. It's >> signed with a pseudonym, but I don't think it's the work of one of our >> local crackpots because it's better written. It's currently under >> consideration for deletion: >> >> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Problems_with_Einstein%27s_general_theory_of_relativity >> > > Thank you! I'm already somewhat familiar with this editor (who appears > reasonably reliable when NOT editing relativity articles) and added my > delete vote. > > I find it interesting that the majority of crackpots are crackpots in > only a limited range of topics. They can be quite competent in other > areas. Examples abound, even among Nobelists: Montagnier, Mullis, > Shockley, Pauling etc. come quickly to mind. An interesting pattern in the first two Nobelists you label as being crackpots: LUC MONTAGIER: Won Nobel for discovering HIV Supposed heresy: “Tragically for humanity, there are many, many untruths emanating from FAUCI and his minions.” In the San Francisco International AIDS Conference of June 1990, Montagnier had publicly declared “the HIV virus is harmless and passive, a benign virus.” KARY MULLIS: Won Nobel for discovering RT-PCR. Supposed heresy: Skepticism regarding FAUCI's claims that HIV causes AIDS. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kary_Mullis#Views_on_HIV/AIDS_and_climate_change ------------- I think that instead of just blindly following the MSM and labeling these Nobelists as crackpots, it is better to pay careful attention to their views. These guys are unconventional thinkers and being financially independent are in a position to "speak truth to power" to "say it like it really is", not being subject to Upton Sinclair's rule: "It is difficult to get a man to understand something when his salary depends upon his not understanding it." -- Upton Sinclair. So, let's stop parroting the MSM, and encourage people to take a hard relook at FAUCI's career and this whole HIV causes AIDS multi-billion dollar industry.