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Path: ...!weretis.net!feeder8.news.weretis.net!reader5.news.weretis.net!news.solani.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Coogan's Bluff <ft.tryon@park.invalid> Newsgroups: rec.food.cooking Subject: Re: It's Early, But Will You Have for Dinner Tonight, Thursday, 11/14/2024? Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2024 12:46:54 -0700 Message-ID: <vhlebe$ntfi$1@solani.org> References: <b1234affcb8e56c8119ecd0249cd4edd@www.novabbs.com> <lpt06oF5emgU4@mid.individual.net> <a143046a8c033fb20fef3ee8e3700246@www.novabbs.com> <lptf8eF7i1uU6@mid.individual.net> <vhd67f$kijb$8@dont-email.me> <vhd9m2$obl5$1@dont-email.me> <vhdoji$r68n$1@dont-email.me> <ARt_O.1362$nitc.498@fx37.iad> <vhfgl9$18c5e$4@dont-email.me> <b%H_O.188432$pZ%.84420@fx16.iad> <vhfkul$18c5e$6@dont-email.me> <_RI_O.3861$ZXyf.1737@fx35.iad> <9ff9ff4735c8ae9b8c94f2d00c61c5f9@www.novabbs.org> <vhg32p$1cs75$1@dont-email.me> <14112bd085bd120f44c6c3ac8b0fcff0@www.novabbs.org> <vhg52u$c5g2$1@solani.org> <cb3153dae9778d698b43ebdffce610a7@www.novabbs.org> <vhg62j$c5rf$1@solani.org> <004759d6709b6c1a62942e7af0d31d07@www.novabbs.org> <vhl1bc$ndf6$4@solani.org> <827a1d68403ba8875669aef150b42e0e@www.novabbs.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2024 19:46:54 -0000 (UTC) Injection-Info: solani.org; logging-data="783858"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@news.solani.org" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:91.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/91.0 SeaMonkey/2.53.19 Cancel-Lock: sha1:WDWRbHdhrogwLuafLud/nWO8Jf0= X-User-ID: eJwFwQkBACAIBLBKoHBCHN7+Edz0glFPoBBdXX81eJQlUdPuh28038Yem92JsPSm1jhrRGOdRwWS6YCzf3rzFjI= In-Reply-To: <827a1d68403ba8875669aef150b42e0e@www.novabbs.org> Bytes: 5979 Lines: 116 dsi1 wrote: > On Wed, 20 Nov 2024 15:38:44 +0000, Coogan's Bluff wrote: > >> dsi1 wrote: >>> On Mon, 18 Nov 2024 19:55:00 +0000, Coogan's Bluff wrote: >>> >>>> dsi1 wrote: >>>>> On Mon, 18 Nov 2024 19:38:06 +0000, Coogan's Bluff wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> dsi1 wrote: >>>>>>> On Mon, 18 Nov 2024 19:03:39 +0000, Bruce wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Mon, 18 Nov 2024 18:29:23 +0000, dsi100@yahoo.com (dsi1) wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Mon, 18 Nov 2024 15:15:05 +0000, Dave Smith wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On 2024-11-18 10:02 a.m., jmcquown wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> On 11/18/2024 9:16 AM, Dave Smith wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> I can't imagine canned mackerel would be anything but nasty. >>>>>>>>>>>> When I >>>>>>>>>>>> was training dolphins and sea lions I started my day by >>>>>>>>>>>> thawing and >>>>>>>>>>>> chopping up hundreds of pounds of mackerel. I never did >>>>>>>>>>>> like the >>>>>>>>>>>> smell. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> You know I like to cook and eat a fair variety of mild fish. >>>>>>>>>>> Mackerel >>>>>>>>>>> was never on my radar. It's an oily fish. I prefer light, >>>>>>>>>>> flaky >>>>>>>>>>> white >>>>>>>>>>> fish. I don't even care for salmon fillets, yet oddly enough I >>>>>>>>>>> like >>>>>>>>>>> salmon patties made from canned salmon. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> My wife once bought mackerel steaks. I was not looking >>>>>>>>>> forward to >>>>>>>>>> them >>>>>>>>>> but cooked up and served with a lemon and caper butter sauce it >>>>>>>>>> wasn't >>>>>>>>>> as bad as I had expected. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> When we were living in San Bruno, I would always order grilled >>>>>>>>> mackerel >>>>>>>>> at the Japanese restaurant down the El Camino Real. It's a classic >>>>>>>>> Japanese dish,. Those were wonderful days. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> These days, I'd just make it myself. As an added bonus, it's a >>>>>>>>> cheap >>>>>>>>> fish. The main problem with broiling mackerel like I do is that >>>>>>>>> your >>>>>>>>> house is going to smell like fish for a few days. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> https://photos.app.goo.gl/NhzbDW1ersHKpoAi7 >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Maybe part of the disagreement about mackerel comes from the >>>>>>>> different >>>>>>>> types. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> To me, in the Netherlands, this used to be fresh (Atlantic) >>>>>>>> mackerel: >>>>>>>> <https://www.palingonline.nl/Portals/0/Entity/138/Images/verse%20makreel%2012.jpg.ir?height=550&width=652&mode=crop&scale=both> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> In Australia, I only see this type of fresh ("Spanish") mackerel: >>>>>>>> <https://capalaba.aussieseafoodhouse.com.au/wp-content/uploads/sites/8/2017/03/Mackerel-002-6x6-1.jpg> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> One of those cutlets is bigger than the entire Atlantic fish I was >>>>>>>> used to. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> It's called "Japanese mackerel" around these waters - I guess. >>>>>>> Fish it >>>>>>> seems, can be called anything. The fish is used for cat food but the >>>>>>> Japanese and I think it's a grand old fish. My guess is that it's >>>>>>> highly >>>>>>> sustainable. That's a good thing. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> https://www.japanesecooking101.com/saba-shioyaki-recipe-grilled-mackerel/ >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> A commendably brief recipe - typically I've seen it soaked in white >>>>>> vinegar first to release some of the oils. >>>>>> >>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/shorts/rSp6dp90QXI?feature=share >>>>> >>>>> That's saba sushi. I've never had that. I'll be on the lookout for it. >>>>> Thanks. >>>> >>>> You're welcome. >>>> >>>> It looks really hearty - nice thick fillet and lots of rice. >>> >>> Lunch today was more raw fish. It's so good that it's hard to believe >>> that it's not going to kill us sooner or later. Oh well, what a way to >>> go. >>> >>> https://photos.app.goo.gl/smjYMZj4FfXHuoCX6 >> >> >> It's all very raw! > > Eating raw fish can't be very good for you - or can it? I'm doing a long > term trial to find out the answer. The answer might be just around the > corner. Heh...minus the ciguatera, onward!