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From: Coogan's Bluff <ft.tryon@park.invalid>
Newsgroups: rec.food.cooking
Subject: Re: It's Early, But Will You Have for Dinner Tonight, Thursday,
 11/14/2024?
Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2024 12:46:54 -0700
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dsi1 wrote:
> On Wed, 20 Nov 2024 15:38:44 +0000, Coogan's Bluff wrote:
> 
>> dsi1 wrote:
>>> On Mon, 18 Nov 2024 19:55:00 +0000, Coogan's Bluff wrote:
>>>
>>>> dsi1 wrote:
>>>>> On Mon, 18 Nov 2024 19:38:06 +0000, Coogan's Bluff wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> dsi1 wrote:
>>>>>>> On Mon, 18 Nov 2024 19:03:39 +0000, Bruce wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Mon, 18 Nov 2024 18:29:23 +0000, dsi100@yahoo.com (dsi1) wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 18 Nov 2024 15:15:05 +0000, Dave Smith wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 2024-11-18 10:02 a.m., jmcquown wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On 11/18/2024 9:16 AM, Dave Smith wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I can't imagine canned mackerel would be anything but nasty.
>>>>>>>>>>>> When I
>>>>>>>>>>>> was training dolphins and sea lions I started my day by
>>>>>>>>>>>> thawing and
>>>>>>>>>>>> chopping up hundreds of pounds of mackerel.  I never did 
>>>>>>>>>>>> like the
>>>>>>>>>>>> smell.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> You know I like to cook and eat a fair variety of mild fish.
>>>>>>>>>>> Mackerel
>>>>>>>>>>> was never on my radar.  It's an oily fish.  I prefer light, 
>>>>>>>>>>> flaky
>>>>>>>>>>> white
>>>>>>>>>>> fish.  I don't even care for salmon fillets, yet oddly enough I
>>>>>>>>>>> like
>>>>>>>>>>> salmon patties made from canned salmon.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> My wife once bought mackerel steaks.  I was not looking 
>>>>>>>>>> forward to
>>>>>>>>>> them
>>>>>>>>>> but cooked up and served with a lemon and caper butter sauce it
>>>>>>>>>> wasn't
>>>>>>>>>> as bad as I had expected.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> When we were living in San Bruno, I would always order grilled
>>>>>>>>> mackerel
>>>>>>>>> at the Japanese restaurant down the El Camino Real. It's a classic
>>>>>>>>> Japanese dish,. Those were wonderful days.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> These days, I'd just make it myself. As an added bonus, it's a 
>>>>>>>>> cheap
>>>>>>>>> fish. The main problem with broiling mackerel like I do is that 
>>>>>>>>> your
>>>>>>>>> house is going to smell like fish for a few days.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> https://photos.app.goo.gl/NhzbDW1ersHKpoAi7
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Maybe part of the disagreement about mackerel comes from the
>>>>>>>> different
>>>>>>>> types.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> To me, in the Netherlands, this used to be fresh (Atlantic) 
>>>>>>>> mackerel:
>>>>>>>> <https://www.palingonline.nl/Portals/0/Entity/138/Images/verse%20makreel%2012.jpg.ir?height=550&width=652&mode=crop&scale=both> 
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> In Australia, I only see this type of fresh ("Spanish") mackerel:
>>>>>>>> <https://capalaba.aussieseafoodhouse.com.au/wp-content/uploads/sites/8/2017/03/Mackerel-002-6x6-1.jpg> 
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> One of those cutlets is bigger than the entire Atlantic fish I was
>>>>>>>> used to.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It's called "Japanese mackerel" around these waters - I guess. 
>>>>>>> Fish it
>>>>>>> seems, can be called anything. The fish is used for cat food but the
>>>>>>> Japanese and I think it's a grand old fish. My guess is that it's
>>>>>>> highly
>>>>>>> sustainable. That's a good thing.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://www.japanesecooking101.com/saba-shioyaki-recipe-grilled-mackerel/ 
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> A commendably brief recipe - typically I've seen it soaked in white
>>>>>> vinegar first to release some of the oils.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/shorts/rSp6dp90QXI?feature=share
>>>>>
>>>>> That's saba sushi. I've never had that. I'll be on the lookout for it.
>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>
>>>> You're welcome.
>>>>
>>>> It looks really hearty - nice thick fillet and lots of rice.
>>>
>>> Lunch today was more raw fish. It's so good that it's hard to believe
>>> that it's not going to kill us sooner or later. Oh well, what a way to
>>> go.
>>>
>>> https://photos.app.goo.gl/smjYMZj4FfXHuoCX6
>>
>>
>> It's all very raw!
> 
> Eating raw fish can't be very good for you - or can it? I'm doing a long
> term trial to find out the answer. The answer might be just around the
> corner.

Heh...minus the ciguatera, onward!