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From: olcott <polcott333@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: HHH(DDD) computes the mapping from its input to HHH emulating
 itself emulating DDD --- anyone that says otherwise is a liar
Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2024 16:03:43 -0600
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On 11/20/2024 3:53 AM, Mikko wrote:
> On 2024-11-20 03:23:12 +0000, olcott said:
> 
>> On 11/19/2024 4:12 AM, Mikko wrote:
>>> On 2024-11-18 20:42:02 +0000, olcott said:
>>>
>>>> On 11/18/2024 3:41 AM, Mikko wrote:
>>>>> The "the mapping" on the subject line is not correct. The subject line
>>>>> does not specify which mapping and there is no larger context that 
>>>>> could
>>>>> specify that. Therefore it should be "a mapping".
>>>>>
>>>>> On 2024-11-17 18:36:17 +0000, olcott said:
>>>>>
>>>>>> void DDD()
>>>>>> {
>>>>>>    HHH(DDD);
>>>>>>    return;
>>>>>> }
>>>>>>
>>>>>> _DDD()
>>>>>> [00002172] 55         push ebp      ; housekeeping
>>>>>> [00002173] 8bec       mov ebp,esp   ; housekeeping
>>>>>> [00002175] 6872210000 push 00002172 ; push DDD
>>>>>> [0000217a] e853f4ffff call 000015d2 ; call HHH(DDD)
>>>>>> [0000217f] 83c404     add esp,+04
>>>>>> [00002182] 5d         pop ebp
>>>>>> [00002183] c3         ret
>>>>>> Size in bytes:(0018) [00002183]
>>>>>>
>>>>>> DDD emulated by any encoding of HHH that emulates N
>>>>>> to infinity number of steps of DDD cannot possibly
>>>>>> reach its "return" instruction final halt state.
>>>>>
>>>>> Because it cannot reach the instructions before tha return.
>>>>> Because it cannot reach the instruction after the HHH call.
>>>>> Because it cannot reach return instruction of HHH.
>>>>>
>>>>>> This applies to every DDD emulated by any HHH no
>>>>>> matter the recursive depth of emulation. Thus it is
>>>>>> a verified fact that the input to HHH never halts.
>>>>>
>>>>> That is too vague to be regareded true or false. It is perfectly 
>>>>> possibe
>>>>> to define two programs and call them DDD and HHH
>>>>
>>>> What a jackass. DDD and HHH have been fully specified
>>>> for many months.
>>>
>>> They are specified in a way that makes your "every DDD" and "any DDD"
>>> bad (perhaps even incorrect) use of Common language.
>>>
>>
>> I specify the infinite sets with each element numbered
>> on the top of page 2 of my paper. Back in April of 2023
>>
>> https://www.researchgate.net/ 
>> publication/369971402_Simulating_Termination_Analyzer_H_is_Not_Fooled_by_Pathological_Input_D
> 
> You have also specifed that HHH is the program in your GitHub repository.
> 

Should I assume that you must be lying about
this because you did not quote where I did this?

I honestly do not believe that I would have ever made
the stupid mistake of calling a C function a computer
program.

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