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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder2.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!epsilon3.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: "Jay E. Morris" <morrisj@epsilon3.comcon> Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.written Subject: Re: ongoing infrastructure changes with AI in the USA Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2024 17:25:26 -0600 Organization: very little if any Lines: 47 Message-ID: <vhlr57$9qrs$1@epsilon3.eternal-september.org> References: <vh8avh$3ir9b$2@dont-email.me> <vhima8$t51$1@usenet.csail.mit.edu> <vhj5cb$22b4j$1@epsilon3.eternal-september.org> <vhji7h$24o52$1@dont-email.me> <lq520mFcl6vU1@mid.individual.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Thu, 21 Nov 2024 00:25:28 +0100 (CET) Injection-Info: epsilon3.eternal-september.org; posting-host="04fb32070856399f35db6e74b5d9af20"; logging-data="322428"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX189taZo49qcExkY0Sov7CTgZ558cGWniWI=" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:rotZwc9Cc42l7+VtkD5oLqHqMfw= X-Antivirus-Status: Clean In-Reply-To: <lq520mFcl6vU1@mid.individual.net> X-Antivirus: AVG (VPS 241120-4, 11/20/2024), Outbound message Content-Language: en-US Bytes: 3430 On 11/19/2024 9:05 PM, Ted Nolan <tednolan> wrote: > In article <vhji7h$24o52$1@dont-email.me>, > Cryptoengineer <petertrei@gmail.com> wrote: >> On 11/19/2024 6:01 PM, Jay E. Morris wrote: >>> On 11/19/2024 12:44 PM, Garrett Wollman wrote: >>>> In article <vhih8r$1uic7$1@dont-email.me>, >>>> Cryptoengineer <petertrei@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> On 11/19/2024 11:25 AM, Paul S Person wrote: >>>>>> I don't suppose there is an easy way to relate a given cell phone >>>>>> number to the carrier and so to the @ address? >>>>> >>>>> No, there isn't. US phone numbers have been movable between carriers >>>>> for decades. I did it myself. >>>> >>>> There is a national database -- obviously, because the incoming calls >>>> have to get routed to the right carrier. I seem to have misplaced the >>>> name of this database; it's operated under an FCC contract by an >>>> organization called the Number Portability Administration Center. >>>> Every phone call and SMS message requires a lookup in this database. >>>> >>>> Originally, calls would be routed on the basis of the local exchange >>>> carrier to which the NPA-NXX was assigned, and then numbers which had >>>> been "ported out" would be kicked back to the originating carrier with >>>> a "not our number" message to force a database lookup. These days, >>>> it makes sense to just do the database dip unconditionally. (There's >>>> caching in the carrier networks to minimize their database access >>>> charges.) >>>> >>>> Whether there's any way for normal people to get access to this >>>> information I don't know. >>>> >>>> -GAWollman >>>> >>> >>> As I said in the other message, https://www.whitepages.com/ and the >>> reverse number lookup did give my carrier. I have not moved carriers in >>> over 20 years though so someone who has would have to verify that it >>> still gives the right carrier. >> >> Interesting, thanks! >> >> pt > > https://xkcd.com/1129/ I moved to Texas to Florida in 1996, the year before (partial) portability started. Would have liked to keep my space coast number.