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Path: ...!weretis.net!feeder9.news.weretis.net!news.quux.org!eternal-september.org!feeder2.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.written Subject: Re: RI October 2024 Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2024 17:48:58 -0600 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 106 Message-ID: <vhlsha$akbr$1@dont-email.me> References: <lpt8n4F7c0eU1@mid.individual.net> <vhgg0u$1f9mv$1@dont-email.me> <lq20muFt728U1@mid.individual.net> <vhiofv$1vv8k$2@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Thu, 21 Nov 2024 00:49:01 +0100 (CET) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="22957dbcf4479c217b3ef7c3702c66b2"; logging-data="348539"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1892wmBAxVN3QvaRj0Xqklp0WlCH1/RnGg=" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:TJf+/iabK1vpBhPYoKV2gaDO45U= Content-Language: en-US In-Reply-To: <vhiofv$1vv8k$2@dont-email.me> Bytes: 5090 On 11/19/2024 1:21 PM, William Hyde wrote: > Ted Nolan <tednolan> wrote: >> In article <vhgg0u$1f9mv$1@dont-email.me>, >> William Hyde <wthyde1953@gmail.com> wrote: >>> Ted Nolan <tednolan> wrote: >>>> Here we are again, possibly less late than usual with books from >>>> October. >>>> As is traditional (and possibly required): The links below are Amazon >>>> affiliate ones which could potentially earn me something should you >>>> choose to buy through one. >>>> >>>> ==== >>>> >>>> Acts of War: A World War II Alternative History >>>> (The Usurper's War Book 1) >>>> by James Young >>>> https://amzn.to/3UAZsmc >>>> >>>> Collisions of the Damned: The Defense of the Dutch East Indies >>>> (The Usurper's War Book 2) >>>> by James Young >>>> https://amzn.to/3AryUx3 >>>> >>>> Here's the first two books of what I believe is to be an alt-hist >>>> WWII trilogy. >>>> >>>> The jumping off point for this universe is that the British take >>>> out Hitler in a bombing raid on Berlin. They had no idea where he >>>> was -- it was just one of those lucky accidents of war. Or, in >>>> this case unlucky accidents of war. >>>> >>>> Unlucky because taking out Hitler proved a very good thing for the >>>> Germans. Himmler came in after sidelining Goering (possibly fatally, >>>> I don't quite recall), >>> >>> Plausible enough, but I suspect that "Der Treue Heinrich" would have >>> been dead in the same ditch as Goering and the generals would have taken >>> over, in effect at least. Perhaps with a nonentity like Hess as titular >>> leader. >>> >>> Of the leaders only Goebbels had any talent for backstabbing, but I >>> don't think the army would put up with him. >>> >>> Besides, if the author wants a German leader who is keen on peace >>> Goering is the ideal choice. Having looted to his heart's content, he >>> was happy to enjoy his wealth and status (and morphine) without the >>> risks of war. >>> >>> and said to the Brits basically: Look Hitler >>>> was really a loose cannon and things got out of hand. What's done >>>> is done, and we're not giving back anything our boys died for, but >>>> is there really any reason we still need to be at war? >>>> >>>> Churchill said 'yes', but was eventually turfed out in favor of >>>> Eden >>> >>> Let me guess, the author looked up a list of UK cabinet members and >>> threw a dart? Eden was well down the list of possible PMs at this >>> point, with only the war having restored him to the leading circle from >>> the pariah status he was consigned to in the late 1930s. >>> >>> And if peace broke out certainly an appeaser like Halifax would have >>> been handed the job. Might as well say they gave the PM position to >>> Brendan Bracken. >>> >>> >>> who turned out to be what some people have always suspected >>>> and made peace. >>> >>> And some people think that Washington was George III's illegitimate son. >>> >>> Or at least I could convince some of that. >>> >>> Sounds like an author to avoid. >>> >>> William Hyde >>> >> >> No, this is entirely my fault. Rather than going back to the book >> while I was writing the review, I was going on my memory which was >> entirely wrong on at least two issues: battle cruiser vs battleship >> and Halifax vs Eden. I don't know why I had Eden on the brain when >> I was definitely familiar with Halifax, but it was Halifax who was >> the accommodationist PM in this setting, not Eden. > > Makes sense then. > > An author not to be avoided. > > I'm still going to run with the George III thing as soon as I can find a > likely victim. > > > > William Hyde Seeing as George III was born in 1738 and George Washington was born in 1732, that did not happen. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_III and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Washington Now if you want to talk about George II, ... Lynn