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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder2.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: William Hyde <wthyde1953@gmail.com> Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.written Subject: Re: RI October 2024 Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2024 19:25:03 -0500 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 108 Message-ID: <vhlul0$b1ed$1@dont-email.me> References: <lpt8n4F7c0eU1@mid.individual.net> <vhgg0u$1f9mv$1@dont-email.me> <lq20muFt728U1@mid.individual.net> <vhiofv$1vv8k$2@dont-email.me> <vhlsha$akbr$1@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Thu, 21 Nov 2024 01:25:05 +0100 (CET) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="2c7960c9943719c8a2b656294d9f8add"; logging-data="361933"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1+3Au+zIj4jkhMxV+2rXkuK" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:91.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/91.0 SeaMonkey/2.53.19 Cancel-Lock: sha1:MED2KjYr3Gs1U7FIfWiiRB5knSs= In-Reply-To: <vhlsha$akbr$1@dont-email.me> X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-Antivirus: Norton (VPS 241120-4, 11/20/2024), Outbound message Bytes: 5219 Lynn McGuire wrote: > On 11/19/2024 1:21 PM, William Hyde wrote: >> Ted Nolan <tednolan> wrote: >>> In article <vhgg0u$1f9mv$1@dont-email.me>, >>> William Hyde <wthyde1953@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> Ted Nolan <tednolan> wrote: >>>>> Here we are again, possibly less late than usual with books from >>>>> October. >>>>> As is traditional (and possibly required): The links below are Amazon >>>>> affiliate ones which could potentially earn me something should you >>>>> choose to buy through one. >>>>> >>>>> ==== >>>>> >>>>> Acts of War: A World War II Alternative History >>>>> (The Usurper's War Book 1) >>>>> by James Young >>>>> https://amzn.to/3UAZsmc >>>>> >>>>> Collisions of the Damned: The Defense of the Dutch East Indies >>>>> (The Usurper's War Book 2) >>>>> by James Young >>>>> https://amzn.to/3AryUx3 >>>>> >>>>> Here's the first two books of what I believe is to be an alt-hist >>>>> WWII trilogy. >>>>> >>>>> The jumping off point for this universe is that the British take >>>>> out Hitler in a bombing raid on Berlin. They had no idea where he >>>>> was -- it was just one of those lucky accidents of war. Or, in >>>>> this case unlucky accidents of war. >>>>> >>>>> Unlucky because taking out Hitler proved a very good thing for the >>>>> Germans. Himmler came in after sidelining Goering (possibly fatally, >>>>> I don't quite recall), >>>> >>>> Plausible enough, but I suspect that "Der Treue Heinrich" would have >>>> been dead in the same ditch as Goering and the generals would have >>>> taken >>>> over, in effect at least. Perhaps with a nonentity like Hess as >>>> titular >>>> leader. >>>> >>>> Of the leaders only Goebbels had any talent for backstabbing, but I >>>> don't think the army would put up with him. >>>> >>>> Besides, if the author wants a German leader who is keen on peace >>>> Goering is the ideal choice. Having looted to his heart's content, he >>>> was happy to enjoy his wealth and status (and morphine) without the >>>> risks of war. >>>> >>>> and said to the Brits basically: Look Hitler >>>>> was really a loose cannon and things got out of hand. What's done >>>>> is done, and we're not giving back anything our boys died for, but >>>>> is there really any reason we still need to be at war? >>>>> >>>>> Churchill said 'yes', but was eventually turfed out in favor of >>>>> Eden >>>> >>>> Let me guess, the author looked up a list of UK cabinet members and >>>> threw a dart? Eden was well down the list of possible PMs at this >>>> point, with only the war having restored him to the leading circle from >>>> the pariah status he was consigned to in the late 1930s. >>>> >>>> And if peace broke out certainly an appeaser like Halifax would have >>>> been handed the job. Might as well say they gave the PM position to >>>> Brendan Bracken. >>>> >>>> >>>> who turned out to be what some people have always suspected >>>>> and made peace. >>>> >>>> And some people think that Washington was George III's illegitimate >>>> son. >>>> >>>> Or at least I could convince some of that. >>>> >>>> Sounds like an author to avoid. >>>> >>>> William Hyde >>>> >>> >>> No, this is entirely my fault. Rather than going back to the book >>> while I was writing the review, I was going on my memory which was >>> entirely wrong on at least two issues: battle cruiser vs battleship >>> and Halifax vs Eden. I don't know why I had Eden on the brain when >>> I was definitely familiar with Halifax, but it was Halifax who was >>> the accommodationist PM in this setting, not Eden. >> >> Makes sense then. >> >> An author not to be avoided. >> >> I'm still going to run with the George III thing as soon as I can find >> a likely victim. >> >> >> >> William Hyde > > Seeing as George III was born in 1738 and George Washington was born in > 1732, that did not happen. So says fake history. William Hyde