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Path: ...!weretis.net!feeder9.news.weretis.net!news.quux.org!eternal-september.org!feeder2.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Don Y <blockedofcourse@foo.invalid> Newsgroups: sci.electronics.design Subject: Re: OT: Repeatably lobbing "projectiles" Date: Thu, 21 Nov 2024 05:06:59 -0700 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 40 Message-ID: <vhn7p9$klsd$1@dont-email.me> References: <vhmm2k$hpg1$1@dont-email.me> <vhn6hv$kcv9$1@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Thu, 21 Nov 2024 13:07:07 +0100 (CET) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="3cee58121027d9a8e4865ed6f7ca0aa0"; logging-data="677773"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX19Ey1h5ETUAXaBV/swOcd3W" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; Win64; x64; rv:102.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/102.2.2 Cancel-Lock: sha1:DoMjMb9/agVZEy7mCfZrcBEDIeA= Content-Language: en-US In-Reply-To: <vhn6hv$kcv9$1@dont-email.me> Bytes: 2711 On 11/21/2024 4:46 AM, Martin Brown wrote: > On 21/11/2024 07:04, Don Y wrote: >> We're trying to make a mechanism that will allow for the >> REPEATABLE lobbing of small projectiles over short (0-20 ft) >> distances. >> >> We've tried using a constant force with a variable launch angle >> (higher for shorter). >> >> And, a variable force with a constant launch angle (push harder >> to throw farther). > > Trebuchet is probably the method of choice. There is a bloke round here with > one big enough to lob a watermelon about 100m. It is an impressive beast and > flat packs into his pickup traler. > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trebuchet > > He takes it around rural summer fetes to raise money for charity (and buying > more water melons). They land with a very satisfying splat!) > > One to throw a tennis ball 20ft would be a bit dangerous close to but very > reproducible if that is what you want. But how do you RELIABLY adjust the length of throw? I.e., "I want THIS (repeatable object) to be tossed in a high arc to land X (not Y or Z) feet from the launcher" It is permissible to store "calibration factors" -- including in *tabular* form. But, you should be able to use any of those specified ranges with a reasonable guarantee that you'll strike at the correct distance (the launcher won't be able to verify the *actual* distance achieved) The entire sequence has to happen without human intervention (and, ideally, in a short enough time span that one can repeatedly "get off rounds" without long delays)