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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder2.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Martin Brown <'''newspam'''@nonad.co.uk> Newsgroups: sci.electronics.design Subject: Re: OT: Repeatably lobbing "projectiles" Date: Thu, 21 Nov 2024 12:34:30 +0000 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 51 Message-ID: <vhn9cs$kvbs$1@dont-email.me> References: <vhmm2k$hpg1$1@dont-email.me> <vhn6hv$kcv9$1@dont-email.me> <vhn7p9$klsd$1@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Thu, 21 Nov 2024 13:34:36 +0100 (CET) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="38b5a8cc510ca4ce44e36e01075ffa18"; logging-data="687484"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1/ShD2eOk3koYa21TiP8Vfnh9/TD4I7vQqHaPusWO/ybg==" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:BzdfNtaZU9Q0fixXX5l/YHg6KPk= In-Reply-To: <vhn7p9$klsd$1@dont-email.me> Content-Language: en-GB Bytes: 3094 On 21/11/2024 12:06, Don Y wrote: > On 11/21/2024 4:46 AM, Martin Brown wrote: >> On 21/11/2024 07:04, Don Y wrote: >>> We're trying to make a mechanism that will allow for the >>> REPEATABLE lobbing of small projectiles over short (0-20 ft) >>> distances. >>> >>> We've tried using a constant force with a variable launch angle >>> (higher for shorter). >>> >>> And, a variable force with a constant launch angle (push harder >>> to throw farther). >> >> Trebuchet is probably the method of choice. There is a bloke round >> here with one big enough to lob a watermelon about 100m. It is an >> impressive beast and flat packs into his pickup traler. >> >> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trebuchet >> >> He takes it around rural summer fetes to raise money for charity (and >> buying more water melons). They land with a very satisfying splat!) >> >> One to throw a tennis ball 20ft would be a bit dangerous close to but >> very reproducible if that is what you want. > > But how do you RELIABLY adjust the length of throw? > > I.e., "I want THIS (repeatable object) to be tossed in a high arc > to land X (not Y or Z) feet from the launcher" Ratchet mechanism and count the number of clicks or stepper motor. > It is permissible to store "calibration factors" -- including > in *tabular* form. But, you should be able to use any of those > specified ranges with a reasonable guarantee that you'll strike > at the correct distance (the launcher won't be able to verify the > *actual* distance achieved) > > The entire sequence has to happen without human intervention > (and, ideally, in a short enough time span that one can repeatedly > "get off rounds" without long delays) Speed of firing might be its main weakness. The thing depends on moving a heavy counterweight up slowly to store the energy and letting it go in a single pulse with mechanical amplification of the lever and sling. Reproducibility was as I recall quite good. -- Martin Brown