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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder2.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: moviePig <nobody@nowhere.com> Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv Subject: Re: Say Nothing Date: Fri, 22 Nov 2024 17:47:56 -0500 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 52 Message-ID: <vhr1ms$1c91n$2@dont-email.me> References: <vhr02a$1alb0$3@dont-email.me> Reply-To: nobody@nowhere.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Fri, 22 Nov 2024 23:47:57 +0100 (CET) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="3ab0f16643e90d3dec4f061693de808e"; logging-data="1451063"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX19kZkckwKtAL8fnLx4UvbLA9odVQs0q7Jk=" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:yFx4zlrV+fEQob2OMk4lJbJZiPA= In-Reply-To: <vhr02a$1alb0$3@dont-email.me> Content-Language: en-US Bytes: 3975 On 11/22/2024 5:19 PM, Rhino wrote: > FX has a new series called Say Nothing that may be of interest to anyone > with curiousity about what the Irish called "The Troubles". This is the > period of time starting in the late 1960s in Northern Ireland which > frequently made the news over assorted acts of violence. > > Say Nothing is based on a very successful book of the same name about > two young Catholic sisters who joined the IRA in 1972 and took active > part in violent operations to drive the British out of Northern Ireland. > Unlike so many productions these days, they didn't invent these young > women or gender-reverse real-life men: this is based on a true story. > > TV inevitably takes liberties with reality/history for dramatic purposes > and I have not yet read any articles outlining what liberties were taken > here so I will NOT say that every moment in this production is exactly > the way things played out. However, it has the feel of reality. I am not > particularly well-versed in this conflict but I know a little about it > and I haven't seen anything yet that rang false. > > I've just finished the third of the nine episodes in the limited series > and I've only recognized one of the actors in it: Rory Kinnear (who > plays the Prime Minister in The Diplomat) as the British brigadier > (general) who is in charge of the British Army's intelligence unit, > which is trying to identify and capture the leaders of the IRA in > Belfast. The remaining actors are unfamiliar to me despite having seen a > few other Irish productions but they do a pretty impressive job in their > roles, particularly Lola Pettigrew, who plays Dolours Price, the more > outgoing on the two sisters. She's the lead in this production. > > The story goes right back to when she and her sister first joined the > IRA in an active role. (Previously, women were relegated to rolling > bandages to treat the men if they got injured.) We see the environment > that made her go from participating in peaceful protests to feeling the > need to go beyond that. We see her participate in an armed > "expropriation" (bank robbery) and help a captured IRA member escape > British custody, just for starters. > > There is, inevitably, violence depicted in this series, including > bombings, shootings, and torture, so if that kind of thing upsets you, > this show is probably not for you. If you want to get a sense for what > life was like during this conflict, at least on the Catholic side, you > should find this informative and engaging. (If you're deeply familiar > with the conflict, you may find it oversimplifies things a bit. For > example, I have yet to see any sign of the different factions among the > IRA that vied for leadership of the effort.) > > IMDB gives this an 8.4 rating. > https://www.imdb.com/title/tt31122777/?ref_=fn_al_tt_1 This appears to be only on Hulu in the U.S.