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From: Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com>
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Subject: Re: Piece of shit iOS has absolutely zero privacy for God's sake
Date: Fri, 22 Nov 2024 15:35:24 -0800
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On 2024-11-22 13:58, Andrew wrote:
> -hh wrote on Fri, 22 Nov 2024 13:39:24 -0500 :
> 
>> In any event, I'd really want to see a clear comparison laydown of just
>> what personal information is really required for using Vendor A vs B
>> before trying to condemn any one vendor.
>>
>> For example, for setting up an Android phone, my understanding is that
>> you're required to provide a Google Account, and to get a Google Account
>> requires providing full name, phone#, date of birth, gender, & location.
>>    Gosh, that sounds to be more obtrusive than Apple...is it?
> 
> That's a surprisingly adult question for an Apple troll to ask, so I will
> faithfully answer that question as best I know as if -hh is an adult.
> 
> Fair enough?
> 
> Bear in mind I'm an expert at Windows & Android & iOS accounts, so you're
> going to hear the truth from me - not something Apple marketing would say.
> 
> For Windows, Microsoft would love for you to provide an account, for
> reasons which are obvious, but there is no requirement for an account.
> 
> Not even on Windows 11 where Microsoft tried to copy Apple's model.

What are the steps an ordinary consumer would have to take to avoid 
setting up Windows 11 without a Microsoft account?

> 
> For Linux, I'm sure you're aware there is no requirement to create an
> account, so again, no personal information is required of you to use it.
> 
> For Android, there is also no requirement whatsoever for an account.
> 
> Google has always allowed you to obtain software from the Google Play Store
> WITHOUT setting up an account, and of course, anywhere else too.

Cite please!

> 
> I have over 900 apps installed on my Android phone, for example, most of
> which are off the Google Play Store and I have no Google account set up.
> 
> It's only Apple that requires that account.
> 
> In reality, you do NOT have to set up an account on an Apple iOS device.
> But... it won't be able to do anything.
> 
> At least a Windows, Linux & Android device works just fine without the
> account, but the Apple device is even more crippled than normal with it.
> 
> Let me know if you have any other questions as I use them all personally.