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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder2.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: x <x@x.org> Newsgroups: sci.physics Subject: Re: What Made My Day Today :-) Date: Sat, 23 Nov 2024 13:15:37 -0800 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 67 Message-ID: <vhtglp$1s8bi$1@dont-email.me> References: <vhpcus$117oh$1@solani.org> <vhqqph$1akhr$1@dont-email.me> <1bdb22fa40ddd55e59251ad7e31e6bdd@www.novabbs.com> <8h181l-s84b.ln1@gonzo.specsol.net> <b5153b6064622e65472224f944288405@www.novabbs.com> <phb91l-lcpc.ln1@gonzo.specsol.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Sat, 23 Nov 2024 22:15:38 +0100 (CET) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="40524a15562f427c197a5dd5f75c4712"; logging-data="1974642"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1/yEbEJWprdbWoZ0yb0w1Z5WsrBpCHzUU4=" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:102.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/102.11.0 Cancel-Lock: sha1:2XZyVHI0WoauRpnj2285quFgaVU= In-Reply-To: <phb91l-lcpc.ln1@gonzo.specsol.net> Content-Language: en-US Bytes: 4011 On 11/23/24 08:13, Jim Pennino wrote: > Bertietaylor <bertietaylor@myyahoo.com> wrote: >> On Sat, 23 Nov 2024 4:16:10 +0000, Jim Pennino wrote: >> >>> Bertietaylor <bertietaylor@myyahoo.com> wrote: >>>> Damn fool that useless Uncle Al. It dismissed Arindam's HTN on law of >>>> conservation of energy grounds. >>> >>> As would anyone not a raving, delusional crackpot. > >> >> Penisnino adequately represents those most kindly called raving, > > Just yet more penis obsessed, delusional ranting and raving deleted. > >> Woof-woof woof woof woof woof woof woof > > You are original in one sense Arindam. Of all the ranting, raving, > delusionally insane crackpots that have posted their utter nonsense here > over the years, you are the first one that is in fact literally barking mad.i Yea I remember reading Hobbe's 'Leviathan' a while back. He wrote in the 1600s. He said there were two major theories about persons with excessive anger or 'madness'. One was that they had diseases of the organs or infirmity of the body and the other was that they are demoniacs. I guess there is Dawkins in modern times who considers himself to be an 'atheist' but does not specify the god that he does NOT believe in. (Like that guy that wrote 'On the god of Socrates' in ancient times. Something such as 'the gods send messengers to men' or 'angelos' for 'messenger'.) This 'people are walking bags of memes' idea has existed for some while with 'meme' being ancient 'sprits' renamed in a lot of ways. Then of course the word 'diabolis' means 'to cast against'. There is of course 'conservation of energy' and low and high 'entropy'. And of course there is Montesquieu's 'The Spirit of the Laws' which could be summarized as 'there are laws of god, laws of man, and laws of nature'. If you want to get philosophical, there is the question - 'do physical laws exist', or are they simply ideals that are not actually observed in reality. What path does a bird decide to fly toward? Can you actually model that in a reliable manner? Does that really reduce to a simple equation or not? Perhaps the world is mostly chaos and entropy anyway in the physical world that is actually observed. It would be nice to dream about a world in the future where both mind uploading and time travel were able to be coupled together to produce actual afterlives upon death, but of course if the summation of all of our 'entropy' adds up to this not being possible either individually or en masse, then perhaps the 'evil' or 'entropy' that we do now gradually destroys the possibility of that ever happening. Yea some of this 'diabolis' or 'to cast against' in this group is rather bad, and I have been doing it also. >