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Path: ...!news.misty.com!news.iecc.com!.POSTED.news.iecc.com!not-for-mail From: John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> Newsgroups: comp.misc,alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: the early teletype Date: Sat, 23 Nov 2024 21:37:38 -0000 (UTC) Organization: Taughannock Networks Message-ID: <vhthv2$2hj4$1@gal.iecc.com> References: <673571b4$2$13$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com> <tgur0lxla7.ln2@Telcontar.valinor> <vhsdft$11t$1@panix2.panix.com> <TRp0P.4719$BuL8.2070@fx03.iad> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Sat, 23 Nov 2024 21:37:38 -0000 (UTC) Injection-Info: gal.iecc.com; posting-host="news.iecc.com:2001:470:1f07:1126:0:676f:7373:6970"; logging-data="83556"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@iecc.com" In-Reply-To: <673571b4$2$13$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com> <tgur0lxla7.ln2@Telcontar.valinor> <vhsdft$11t$1@panix2.panix.com> <TRp0P.4719$BuL8.2070@fx03.iad> Cleverness: some X-Newsreader: trn 4.0-test77 (Sep 1, 2010) Originator: johnl@iecc.com (John Levine) Bytes: 2080 Lines: 21 According to Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid>: >> Telex and TWX were different but I remember that they both allowed >> offline message preparation on paper tape and then later in-memory >> on a smart terminal. > >Telex was Baudot, TWX was ASCII. The typical Teletype hardware models >were 32ASR and 33ASR respectively. Telex was Western Union, TWX was AT&T. There were early Baudot TWX machines starting in 1931. Baudot TWX used manual operators until 1962 when they cut over all 60,000 TWX subscribers to dial service over the Labor Day weekend and assigned them regular POTS numbers. ASCII TWX with x10 area codes was introduced in 1963. AT&T sold TWX to Western Union in 1969 who didn't do a very good job of integrating it with Telex, and the remains of Telex were sold back to AT&T in 1990. -- Regards, John Levine, johnl@taugh.com, Primary Perpetrator of "The Internet for Dummies", Please consider the environment before reading this e-mail. https://jl.ly