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From: Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm>
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Subject: incompetence and stupidity among SO mods (Was: Fuck Around and Find
 Out (FAFO))
Date: Sun, 24 Nov 2024 03:34:27 +0100
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Hi,

The advice is: Prompt Action on Reports:
Respond swiftly to reports of malicious links.
Was a big problem for SO. They showed a high
degree of incompetence and stupidity.

One mod told me I should suggest edits.
Guess what I can only suggest 5 edits per day
with my SO user level. Thats the opposite of
"prompt action" and "swiftly".

LoL

Bye

P.S.: Unfortunety this advice is behind moderator
chat wall, I cannot send a link. But I made a few
screenshots. Just to have something to laugh at
every day from now on.

For those who have moderator privilige, here is
the link. I first showed them a query how to
find the links:

https://stackexchange.com/search?q=url:jekejeke.ch&pagesize=50

Then the moron mod responded:

"Do you not see an Edit button below the post?
Even if your edit isn't applied immediately,
it will go through a review queue where other
users will approve it. Or, we will go through
your suggested edits and approve them ourselves."
https://stackoverflow.com/users/message/127965#127965


Mild Shock schrieb:
> Hi,
> 
> Its all fun, until somebody gets hurt:
> 
> The more you fuck around, the more you're gonna find out
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_qEcm43Lx3c
> 
> I am not the owner of jekejeke.ch anymore.
> So if somebody gets some bruises because of
> some phishing, I cannot be held responsible.
> 
> Bye
> 
> The liability is on people like Jean-François
> Fabre, Karl Knechtel, etc.. who prevented the delete:
> 
> ChatGPT tells me:
> 
> Yes, a website can potentially be held liable for
> linking to phishing websites, but it depends on the
> jurisdiction and specific circumstances.
> 
> Here's a high-level summary:
> 
> Factors That Determine Liability:
> 
> Knowledge and Intent:
> 
> If the website knowingly links to phishing websites or
> facilitates malicious activity, it could be liable for
> aiding and abetting fraudulent acts.
> 
> Negligence:
> 
> If the website failed to vet the links it provides and
> this negligence caused harm to users, liability might
> arise under certain laws (e.g., negligence claims).
> 
> Consumer Protection Laws:
> 
> In some jurisdictions, consumer protection laws require
> website operators to ensure their content does not lead
> to harm. Linking to a phishing site might be seen as a
> violation if due diligence wasn't performed.
> 
> Safe Harbor Provisions:
> 
> Many countries have laws (e.g., the DMCA in the U.S.,
> or EU's e-Commerce Directive) that protect websites
> from liability for user-generated content if they act
> quickly to remove harmful links when notified.
> 
> Terms of Service (ToS):
> 
> Websites often include disclaimers in their ToS to
> mitigate liability for external links. However, courts
> may not always honor these disclaimers if negligence or
> malicious intent is proven.
> 
> Reducing Liability Risks:
> 
> Regular Link Audits: Monitor and verify external links.
> 
> Clear Disclaimers: State explicitly that the website is
> not responsible for third-party links.
> 
> Prompt Action on Reports: Respond swiftly to reports of
> malicious links.
> 
> Collaborate with Authorities: If malicious links are
> identified, working with cybersecurity and legal authorities
> shows good faith.
> 
> Ultimately, liability will depend on whether the website
> owner acted responsibly and in good faith to prevent harm.
>